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[Dress ID Update] Kate & William Have Dinner with Pippa and Her Future In-Laws.

Saturday, April 1, 2017

There is a pretty surefire rule in blogging about Kate. If you put a ton of time into a post during a slow time, there is bound to be a Kate sighting right after you publish. I am frustrated and excited in equal measure. Well, more excited. How long has it been since we got pap shots of Kate? It feels like an eternity, I honestly cannot remember the last batch. With Pippa's wedding in a little under two months, William and Kate joined James Middleton, James Mathews's brother Spencer, and his parents at Pippa and James's flat for dinner last Thursday.


With her hair in a relaxed pony, Kate looks gorgeous. Her dress looks like a hot mess, and not in the sexy hot-mess kind of way. It looks a little like (don't be offended) her Great Plains dress. But, the sleeves look a little long. I just don't love these super busy, modern prints, and I don't love orange and brown/black together, which is what it *looks* like this is. That being said, Kate is really into these eclectic patterns, so... it's her night out!


@MiddleotnMaven Idd the dress! I blew right by it on John Lewis because it is actually a piece that is shown as off the shoulder, which explains why it is a quasi-square neck on Kate. She has pulled it up onto her shoulders.


The dress is Somerset by Alice Temperley, which is the designers cheaper diffusion line. It features a floral pattern against a black background. I didn't like the print in the pictures and now I have a better look, I admit I dislike it even more. Kate loves florals, and I am with her 75% of the time, but I just can't get on board with these smaller super busy prints in these darker colors ways. Oh well. You win some, you lose some. I do like the bohemian vibe that Kate has created with this dress. Print aside, she looks cute and laid back for her night out.


I do like the structure of the dress. This square neckline that is flirting with oval really highlights Kate's beautiful neck and shoulders, and she has shortened up the length on her favorite midi here, which is a nice change of pace. I am going to look for the ID on this dress and update the blog once I find it. Or more likely, once someone else finds it. ;) See you in a bit. See more photos over at the Daily Mail here.

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  1. Oh I am not a fan of this dress....or the ponytail to be quite frank. Hope they enjoyed a nice evening out, though!

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  2. Love the ponytail and the open neckline. Hate the print.

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  3. Hmm I'm not a fan of this at all.
    Like you Jane, I thought it was her Great Plains dress. The print looks "Erdem" to me, but it could be from anywhere! Hopefully you can get an ID. :)

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  4. Orange + Brown = the 1970s to me although the updated ID colors look a bit different from the photo of Kate. I'm also not crazy about the neckline but at least it's not super high. Not sure about wearing courts with this style dress though. Is the bag Kate is carrying a handbag or a hostess gift? If a handbag, odd choice with the shoes. And if not a handbag, I wonder why not carry one? Surely she doesn't have a PA with her for this event.

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    1. I think it is a hostess gift.

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    2. The DM is contradicting itself with the package Kate is holding. The photo is captioned "arriving", but the article says she left carrying the package.

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    3. Maybe she left carrying a different package and there's no photo of that?

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  5. Totally agree with you.. The dress is hideous and might be better suited for a 70 year old... But alas, Kate always looks good no matter what she wears! She makes the dress something we'll tolerate on a private night out! ;)

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  6. I really love this dress! I love candids even more :) I, too, thought it was her Great Plains Cezanne dress. But I'm glad it wasn't, as this has a more bohemian vibe and I like the floral print/style. Kind of wish she had worn it off the shoulder, but around the shoulders is more appropriate for meeting the in-laws! I agree with lizzie, I don't particularly like the court shoes with this style of dress, but it does give it a more dressier look. Looks like they had a lovely evening. Counting down to 'the wedding' & Pippa's choice of dress :)

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    1. Oh, good, I thought I was the only one who likes this dress. Not a fan of the Great Plains but think this print is less prim and more youthful than most of her prints. The sophisticated bohemian print works nicely with this style dress. Wish she could have worn it off her shoulders too but agree that probably wasn't appropriate for this evening. The black courts aren't first choice but do dress things up nicely. Love the high pony. Wish we knew what she is carrying and what earrings she has on.

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    2. Faith, I also thought I was the only one who liked this dress, after reading all the 'elderly lady' comments! Glad someone else likes it :) I want to know what earrings she is wearing & what she's carrying too.

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    3. Lol! We can be "elderly" together, KG. I think she looks so pretty here and it is a nice departure from how we usually see her dressed.

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  7. Is Kate wearing a black belt? Me thinks yes and it would make sense as it matches her shoes.

    I hope they had a lovely evening with lots of wedding talk. :-)

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    1. Yes, you're right! Good spotting, royalfan :)

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    2. Oh dear, when is she NOT wearing a belt? I believe you're right.

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    3. SM sometimes I question her use of a belt, but with a pattern like this it can be helpful in breaking it up.

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    4. I believe she is holding a black clutch in her left hand near her waist. There are photos with better lighting and angle. I don't believe it is a belt. For awhile I thought they were April Fool impersonators, especially the one who portrays William. I also thought Catherine looked heavier than she has been, but noticed that the dress has the same look on the model. It may be someone from James' brother's show was aware of the dinner and the word got around, which might go with the photos being leaving, not arriving. I haven't checked the DM for other photos.

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    5. So I'm not alone... :-)

      Anon 1, I see a very thin black line across Kate's waist in the photo of them taken from the back. It caught my eye because of the break in the floral print.

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    6. Ah! We may both be correct.

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  8. She looks like a church lady, having tea with the elderly dears of the congregation.
    And to add insult to injury, the dress is 100% vicose nylon.

    What an opportunity to look young and cool and she chose not to. At least William dressed down and I think he looked relaxed and sharp.

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  9. Interestingly, this dress makes her look more like Pippa somehow! Yes, it's hideous, but kind of fun to see her just throw on something weird she likes. Love the pony, though - and would really like to see more of it! She has a lot of hair and a beautiful face...the perfect combo for pulling this off. Jane, I know you worked hard on your last post - very interesting, thanks!

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  10. Oh the frump! If she'd pulled this dress off her shoulders and worn strapped heels I would be 100% on board, but this is painfully church lady and not even nice material, which she could certainly afford. Come on Kate, you're not 70! William's glasses and casual look are cute and age appropriate, so between this outfit and his little adventure in Verbier I think we know which of the Cambridges is bringing the youth to this marriage!

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    1. I hate the print, but agree the dress would have been so much better with Kate sowing off her shoulders!!

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    2. Ouch! Well she may quite often be more modest than most her age, that's a bit extreme. I'd say she smoulders on occasion when she goes out. Particularly if it's an evening event.

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    3. I wonder if she put the shoulders in their proper place once she was safely inside and out of potential paparazzi territory.

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    4. It seems the off-the-shoulder look is really in this spring. I have tried them, but have the problem of them sliding back up onto my shoulders. Maybe Catherine has the same problem!

      Belle

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  11. Not her best. But good to see the Cambridges out and about.
    Your last post was really cool, Jane! Effort duly noted;)

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  12. I really think this looks like Kate pre engagement. Quite possibly her true style when she is off duty. I'm really hoping that the sleeves just popped up in her shoulders as those kinds of tops tend to do and that wasn't on purpose!

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  13. "Hideous" dress aside, thank you for taking the time to share this with us, Jane. I don't mind this kind of candid. William looks great.

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  14. I like this dress and how she wears it. The only thing I don't like is the lenght of it. It should be just above her knees.(Show your killerlegs Kate, serious!)They look happy and relaxed.

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  15. That girl sure does love her lace and small print/busy florals. For all the comments about the "real" Kate I think consensus may eventually center on a woman who loves flowy dresses with busy prints that hit below the knee paired with pony tails and Kiki earrings. Boho chic princess.

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    1. I think you hit the nail on the head, Anon 10:22, re Kate's 'true' style. She really is a 'boho chic princess', as you so aptly put.

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    2. I agree. Boo chic really works for her but I wish she would really go for it. I guess she can't because *gasp* what will the tabloids say. Her look in that Anita Dongre in India would have been perfect boho chic with different footwear.

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    3. I agree as well. I think she gravitates toward a more bohemian style but tempers it because of who she is. I think it became very evident to me during the Indian tour.

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    4. I would have worn sandals, it is still April though..

      Anon2

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    5. I would not be wearing a sleeveless dress, let alone sandals. April in London!

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  16. I don't like the dress. Anyone recognize the earrings? Love the pony. I flashed on a wish that she'd worn the McQueen Paris black sleeveless dress with the black bow belt, her pony, Kiki "pink" earrings, her Cartier watch, and those great suede crossover flats she wore in India. Youthful, relaxed, sophisticated, and shapely (according to Jane's great description of the way that fabric wears). I really liked those shoes. I'm sure Kate looked great even though I'm not a fan of busy florals and flimsy fabrics. Katherine USA

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  17. They both look cute, and I hope they had fun. Kate is so lovely, it doesn't matter what she wears.

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  18. Agree with your assessment 100%, Jane, on this dress. Meghan Merle said in an interview that she stays away from prints. I thought of Kate and had to laugh! BUT I don't think we should pit them against each other fashionwise (not a word, I know). So, please don't take my comments that way. I think both have their great fashion moments. And IMO opposites attract. My friends and I dress very differently. And I like that.

    Also, DM is reporting that Kate chose Battersea to keep George away from the very elite Kensington set. That's what I thought and commented about a post or two ago. She's looking to raise him in a middle class (English version) way.

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  19. Why do we not like the Great Plains dresses? I bought the latest release (black/grey/white). I really like it with a blazer and belt! It also isn't floral, but rather all these specks of dots.

    First thought: she's showing that much skin in London on April 1st?!?! I've been to London before in April and never would have shown skin like that - it must be quite warm right now! Especially in the evening.

    I don't hate the hemline, she is going to someone's house for dinner and wants to be comfortable - this isn't a hot date night, or maybe she wants to kick up her feet up on the sofa and tuck her feet under her skirt. Maybe she wants comfort over style.

    ~ A

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    1. I wonder the same, I must be pretty sensitive to the cold...
      However Britons tend to dress sleeveless early..

      Anon2

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    2. I should have been more specific. I don't like the rusty color way of the Great Plains dress, although I do like the way it works with her Hobbs coat. Before the dress was IDed it looked like big splotches, which is what reminded me of the dot print of the Great Plains. I like the Great Plains dress in the forest green and particularly in the new color combo.

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    3. ~A..yet we often see Kate in long-sleeved high-necked coatdresses during the late spring & summer months. It's a puzzle to me.

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    4. Natalia (Germany)April 2, 2017 at 1:20 PM

      It has been exceptionally warm - almost summer like - for end of March / early April. Up to 20 - 25 degrees during the day and still around 18 degrees in the evening. I spent most of Friday night at a party outside wearing a sleeveless top! Unusual for Europe, really.

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    5. It is true that the weather is very changeable in UK and seasons not very noticeable...Nevertheless sometimes I need to look the temperature up to be sure...ha!!
      It's a puzzle to me too.

      Anon2

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    6. Natalia , it depends on the part of Europe where you live...We need a blazer or spring coat untill 22C..ha!!. You amaze us !!

      Anon2

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  20. Also, are Mike & Carole out of town? It seems funny that they are the only two not in attendance. Carole tends to spend a fair bit of time in London with the kids...speaking of which, we haven't seen a candid of her in a while either. Everyone is hunkered down and busy, I guess.
    ~ A

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    1. Yes, I wondered too. I would have expected them to be there since James' parents were invited.

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    2. With the latest news of Pippa's skiing party with Kate flying to France with William and his chums, I hesitate to speculate on the whereabouts of any of them at any given moment. Including Harry and friend. There could have been family members who arrived early at James's house and the tip came later. How do we know Pippa and James were even there? All I can say is--I never heard of hen party and possible rehearsal dinner being nearly two months before the wedding. Since Pippa and James are reportedly planning a pre-wedding trip to Eden Rock--another smokescreen? I predicted a wedding there or Scotland. The country church wedding sounds idyllic and romantic and too perfect to be true. The logistics and security angle don't seem right to me. Well, here I am gossiping and speculating away about events that are none of my business. What can I say...The dog woke me up. Now she's asleep and I'm not. Ha!-------PS Way to go LIZZIE..secret vacation on private airplane. You called it! And good on you W&C for helping Pippa to keep her party private. Poor William's taken the flack for his part in the apparent ruse. We knew there was something off about his making a production out of his lad's weekend, didn't we? Reminds me of a parent bird flapping its wings and making a racket to distract from the nest. PPS..and what are the chances HM wasn't in on this and ok'd the CW Service absences?

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    3. Anon1, my hen party was two months before the wedding...nobody wants to arrive at the church having bags...ha!!

      Europe thing again??

      Anon2

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    4. Must have been some party, Anon2 ;+)

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  21. Last comment, promise! Is Kate sans purse or clutch?! I can never leave without one, even if it's only to a close family members house. I know Pippa would lend her whatever she needs, but I'm always surprised by those that don't always need a bag.
    ~ A

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  22. This is really a terrible dress but I think it would probably have looked a tiny bit better if it was off the shoulder as intended and without the black accessories...Sometimes I sort of fear that Kate's innat sense of style is a little lacking when she doesn't have the guidance of designers creating ensembles for her..

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  23. Had she worn the dress off her shoulders, as it's intended and shown on the model, and had her glorious hair down she would have been amazing. I wouldn't have minded the print at all then. When she styles herself with looks like this I'm just so bummed at this missed opportunity to look as incredible as she could. She is always beautiful though.

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  24. Perhaps the dress would have looked better with different shoes.
    Any way--her night off, she can wear whatever she is comfortable with.

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  25. Kate looks lovely but this dress is in a word Frumpy, the shoes totally kill the "boho" vibe, one of the worst looks ever on the Duchess.

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  26. I do not have an aversion to this dress. I think, for spring, I might have chosen brighter colors but the dress seems to have beautiful movement and I like it better with the belt. Knowing the very good chances of paps being around, does anybody else think she may have slid those sleeves off her shoulders once within the confines of Pippa's place? Just a thought. Love her hair up and happy she's getting some Middleton family time. Mike & Carole must be out of town or had another commitment. Again, I notice the omission of Donna Air. She must really be persona non grata.

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    1. The dress does have possibilities; it can be worn as shown on the model, or the way Kate opted to wear it. I'd go with Kate's style because it allows for a regular bra. Definitely a consideration. ;-) However, the model's styling would be perfect for warmer weather.

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    2. Robin, I didn't even think of Donna! I am so used to her not being around the Middletons. It's very odd to me that James is so close to his family, considering a future with Donna, yet she doesn't seem to be accepted or in their fold. We knew William and James were accepted into the fold when they were dating Middleton girls. Hmmmm...

      ~ A

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  27. It is rare for me to comment on the clothing Kate wears, because I believe she should wear the clothing/styles she is most comfortable with. (I admit that fashion is not important to me.) I'm glad to see Kate and William having a night out with extended family. I hope it was a relaxing evening.

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    1. Here we are ripping apart her outfit, me included, and you post such a sweet comment. :) They do look happy and relaxed. I think W is staring back at the house. I wonder if it's his first time being there. I'm sure it's not Kate's first. I like Pip and I'm glad she's marrying someone with a lot of money. With W as a brother-in-law, it would have been harder being the poorer one in the family. And, most importantly, he seems like a nice, solid guy.

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    2. I'm sure they have all been there before, somewhat under the radar.

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  28. Google not letting me post my comment above. She was carrying a black clutch in her left hand. In some photos it is either obscured by the car or blends in against her dress. We almost had something going about her not carrying a purse. Ha! Her tax-payer-funded assistant had it---at a private social event. : =] At least no one can say she was indecently holding her purse. That is the kind of nonsense seen on even some popular Kate blogs, with efforts to defend a non-present Kate, William, or Carole not printed. It is the reason I continue to enjoy this blog. A consistently friendly atmosphere, with an occasional drop-in leading question..

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    1. When some accuse the dedicated Rebecca Deacon of being fired simply because she is getting married and resigning from a very intense job, friendly isn't the word I would use.

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    2. Thank you Anonymous 7:34. The venom directed towards Rebecca was very surprising. Such a sweet time in Rebecca's life and some tore her apart. I'm not sure why we can't show Rebecca (and anyone else that isn't Kate) the same consideration and compassion we show Kate? btw, I loved Kate's casual look here. It's so pre-engagement style! I suppose this might be how she normally dresses outside official events.

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    3. Well, we needn't to santify Rebeca Deacon either...She was only working and she has been paid for it...

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    4. How is refraining from unkind assumptions "sanctifying" someone?!

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    5. As all of us are «Anonymous», I feel myself a bit silly, I don't know who I am speaking with...

      The words "dedication" and "compassion",brought to my mind the nuns in my school...."sanctify"!!

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  29. Have you ever had one of those days when you put some outfit on in the morning and you can't wait to get home to tear it off because you felt like a frump all.day.long. I wonder if Kate ever feels that way?

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  30. This was a sartorial disaster, no question about it, IMO. The colour was dreadful, dark, dreary and dim. This dress was cheap, and it showed.

    I have reluctantly, having followed Kate since 2009, come to the conclusion that she is totally ignorant of both fashion and style. Especially style. I've tried to figure out why, and think it boils down to two things; 1) her mother--who is anything but stylish, with the remarkable exception--I assume she paid a stylist--of Kate's wedding, and 2) remarkably for an art history graduate, Kate seems to possess no innate sense of style. She just doesn't have an eye for it. And, unfortunately, it would seem that William doesn't have enuf of the ready to pay for a stylist--which he could certainly use, himself.

    This is not a criticism of Kate's character, which would appear to be first-rate; she just married the wrong guy, who is a member of the wrong family--a family which would be wrong for just about anyone...except Sophie of Wessex and Charliie's "dear wife", Camilla Shand/Parker-Bowles/Windsor.

    Just my two cents--altho I freely admit to being more than a little disillusioned with the House of Windsor, and that includes William and Harry.

    JC

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  31. Nice to have a non official event pic. Makes me wonder why there aren't more pap shots. Have the paps given up? Has the palace scared them off with threats of legal action or is it because Kate and Wills literally never go outside Anmer?

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  32. Awful pattern, very conservative shoes for such a boho look. But I imagine it was very comfy to wear. Hey, she's off-duty, she can look how she wants!

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  33. Try to remember your outrage over the RD critique the next time unkind speculation is aimed at Kate and the Middletons, without the supportive reasons for the opinions that I included. I've apologised and explained. I have owned my comments. Have you, Anonymous? Did you ream William out for being an errant husband for leaving Kate at home with the kids, for example? Or not attending CW Sunday, even though nobody but HM and the Duke attends every year. Did you judge Kate for not handing out shamrocks one year and refuse to consider the possibility that there was a credible argument supported by facts (William was there, he was the unit Colonel etc.) Do you ever give verifiable reasons for your speculation? I use these instances only as an example of the unkind assumptions leveled at W&C. Do you then apologise if the remarks offend some or are proven inaccurate? Do you attempt to provide accurate information when available, as I do? Do you ever acknowledge being wrong? Who knows...you have made yourself blameless by refusing to provide a consistent name. I don't mind the use of an Anonymous identity, but don't start attacking fellow commenters for their comments if you can't stand by your own remarks. -------This subject was done and dusted on the last post. Why are you perpetuating what you see as an insult to RD? I've seen this Anonymous blitz effort to get conflict going on both this and another blog and, believe me, it is transparent. anon1

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