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Kate & Carole Middleton Spotted at Pippa's Place + Meghan Markle Closes the Tig

Sunday, April 9, 2017

A few fast updates, all! There has been a lot of activity around Pippa's flat of late as we race toward her May nuptials. Carole Middleton was at the London home just this past week, according to the Daily Mail, ins hat appears to have been something of a wedding conclave. 


She was pictured leaving the flat trailed shortly after by a man burdened down with white bags that presumably contain items for the big day. The Mail thinks the man was milliner Stephen Jones, who according to Wikipedia is one of the world's "most radical milliners." His designs do look a little daring and unconventional.

Stephen Jones

Although it might be that Carole plans to wear a bespoke Stephen Jones creation, I think it is more likely that Pippa is having a special headpiece created for her own ensemble. In any event, the visit with Pippa, Carole and Mr. Jones was followed closely (dispute on timing here) by that of the most famous Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge herself. Kate was pictured leaving the flat, too, several hours after Carole.


I read another report that she was there the day after Carole and then this other report that she stopped by a few hours after on the same day. Honestly, I wonder if they were all together and Kate just stayed a while after Carole took off. Who knows, the most important point is that Kate the Great was spotted in an increasingly infrequent pap shot and that is cause to rejoice. (You can see quite a few more snaps here at the Mail Online)


Kate was sporting her Jonathan Saunders waffle top that she first debuted in New Zealand three years ago today! Well...actually, she debuted it on the 13th which was Palm Sunday that year. I have been reminiscing on her teal Palm Sunday ensemble on Instagram this morning which puts me in mind.  Anyway, the "Deborah" waffle sweater looks creamy, but on closer inspection it has delicate color. With its light teals and pinks, it just the right combo for a spring day in the run-up to Easter.

To refresh your memory, Kate changed into this top after the Palm Sunday service in Dunedin for a visit to the Forsyth Barr Stadium for a game of Pippa Rugby. I just always like to see my name in print, so I included the stadium name. ;)


The Duchess was also wearing her white Superga sneakers, which are a more recent addition to the closet. These comfy trainers were added in Canada on October 1st:


In Meghan Markle news, the celebrity girlfriend of everyone's favorite single prince made a very surprising and portentous move on Friday. She closed her lifestyle website The Tig after three years. Visiting The Tig site displayed only this splash page announcing that the site had shuttered and wishing fans the best. Of note, there was no reason given for her decision.


A website is a labor of love, a powerful form of self-expression, and a creative outlet. For many blogs, they are also a form of revenue and self-promotion. I use self-promotion in good way not a negative one--everyone is allowed to build a career and build a name. I think that Meghan has been scaling back for some months since she started dating Harry. Her Instagram has had very few personal posts and you could definitely see the struggle between the desire to maintain her presence as she had before and the increasing demands of her personal life requiring greater discretion. I see the closure of this blog as the most persuasive indication that Harry and Meghan are very serious and headed toward commitment. I don't think shutting The Tig is a decision she'd have taken lightly or without a pretty confident plan for an alternate future. Time will tell. 

Thoughts on this development welcome.

193 comments:

  1. I have never in my life been so excited about website closing down! I have a knack for knowing early on when my friends have found "the one" and crazy as it sounds I had that "knowing" almost as soon as I heard about this match. I know that sounds insane but there it is. And even just on paper they seem like a really good match and I looooooove that Meghan would be an unconventional choice for British royalty. And vice versa :).

    Also I think you're right that Carole and Kate were hanging out at Pippa's for quite some time and Carole just happened to leave early. Also excited for this wedding too, and I really hope we get a couple of arrival / departure pictures, with a minimum of fuss from the press. Would absolutely love to see what all the guests wear as well. There does seem to be quite a lot of activity going on right now, at least, activity we can see, and I wonder how certain the May 20th date is and if it couldn't possibly be sooner...

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    1. Well, *I* am excited that your spidey senses are tingling about this! I think they seem like a fantastic match, too, and that Meghan would bring a new and, to my opinion, delightful energy to the BRF. And I'm happy that Harry seems to have finally found his person. Three cheers for love! ☺

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    2. Thank you, Tsipa! Glad to hear someone else is excited for them! I think Meghan has been treated horribly. And I think it's based on very superficial and prejudiced reasons. Frankly, I have been appalled at the way she's been received.


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  2. Alejandra RamirezApril 9, 2017 at 7:28 PM

    Hello,
    Like I wrote on the FB post: * Mmmh, I find it sad that, if you what say is true and there is an engagement close, that she had to close her blog.
    Why is it that Royal Girlfriends have to give up many personal things or projects just of who they are dating? *
    One of the comments was that she has to have time to do the Royal Duties, but why can´t she do both? Have her own personal blog and be a Royal Girlfriend (not the best term but you know what I mean) :P
    Again I do not want to start a super mega malicious debate but she can have both sides of her life, her personal blog and the Royal Life so why give up on one :(

    What do you think? (Or am I over thinking) :?

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    1. It isn't just royal girlfriends, we just don't have any recent examples of royal boyfriends. Prince Phillip gave up the most!! I understand Anne's first and second husband's sacrificed, too. Zara doesn't have a title, and the York girl aren't working royals. Sophie continued working for a while AFTER their wedding, and I'd say it appears she is satisfied with her royal work. I also don't doubt that Kate loves the opportunity to be a stay-at-home mom, and pursue her interests on the side. I don't see this as a discussion on female oppression.
      ~ A

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    2. I actually think it is less about giving up your work but about giving up access and creating more privacy. It would be hard to have a senior royal have essentially a blog about their likes and thoughts. Too much would be read into it.

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    3. I agree with you, Ellen. I imagine M grew frustrated at the press' habit of reviewing old posts and inventing Harryesqe scenarios to go along with them. She would also be at risk of appearing to profit off of her proximity to the BRF if she accepted product placement payment or freebies (as she likely did before Harry, since that is part of the income-generating nature of a lifestyle blog) and by closing the blog, she avoids that controversy. I think it was the right move for her, even if it doesn't signal an engagement. If they do marry, however, perhaps M could improve the KP website. It needs a lot of work.

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    4. Great replies ladies!
      Thank you for your input and yes the access of privacy is major point

      Didn't really think of it!

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    5. As a member of the royal family you are not allowed to engage in what could be described as ' commercial activities'.. It would be inappropriate and liable to offend the public.

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  3. I have wondered the same thing about the alleged May 20th wedding date. I wonder if the wedding is going to happen sooner than that date, with all the recent activity at Pippa's flat. I do hope we get a few good pictures. Pippa will be a stunning bride!

    And hopefully once the wedding is over, Kate and William will turn their attention to baby #3. I have been thinking she'd wait until after Pippa's wedding for another baby. But then, hopefully Harry will be getting married as well! She may not be as involved in his wedding, however.

    Just my speculating and wishful thinking :)

    Thank you for the post Jane.

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    1. When I got married the last two months before the big day were a flurry of activity. Lots of things to be finalised that can't be left to the last minute: clothes and accessories (to give time for alterations and ordering any finishing touches), guest numbers (so the final venue bill can be settled, food and cake tastings, government/church paperwork to register the marriage, the seating plan (!!) and lots of final decorating decisions.

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    2. Weddings get very busy in the run up. For me, personally, the one month countdown was huge. It's when the final fittings start, etc. Although the size of ones head isn't likely to change too much ;-)
      ~ A

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    3. And isn't Pippa doing a pre-wedding vaca to relax before the big day (and freshen her tan)? That would mean an extra lot of fuss getting ready way ahead of time.

      Also, I agree that thoughts might turn to baby #3 after Pippa weds because, can't you just see her and Kate wanting to have little ones the same age?

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    4. I've never heard of a 'pre-wedding' getaway before...what's the honeymoon for then?
      I can see Kate maybe having some more children closer in age to Pippa's, could be a possibility after the wedding.

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    5. Suntan ahead of the big day?

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    6. I personally think the pre-wedding vaca at his parent's resort is a fabulous idea!! So many brides and grooms are dead tired by the big day, I think a break before hand is perfect. Too many people rush everything and don't enjoy the wedding and celebration, I think this will certainly help them to do just that.

      If you have the time and money, I say go for it! I bet Pips is pregnant within a year or close to it, so enjoy the peace and quiet while you can!

      They had a getaway for the bachelorette party, so why not this too? I did think the comments about all the swag they got from the chalet they stayed at was really tacky. And the details about all the staff waiting on them, doubly tacky. Next time, they should focus on other details when giving a behind the scenes account.

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    7. I guess a top up on the tan wouldn't hurt...I just thought a pre-wedding holiday is a strange concept, I thought that's what the honeymoon is for LOL oh well, they are rich, so why not?! I'm sure Pippa will get pregnant within the year, so they have to make the most of the time they have while sans-kids ;)

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    8. 1.11, I think your getaway theory is on the money. And as you ladies stated, if they can afford it, why not?

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  4. I'm really excited for pippa. I hope we get some pics I want to see her wedding dress the most.
    Haven't gotten on the meghan train I still say something off. But not gonna speak more on it. A lot of folks get into a tizzy if you say something negative.

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    1. You're not alone in not being able to get on the train. I sincerely want Harry to have a loving and supportive partner, but I am getting a vibes that take me back to the excitement over Andrew and Sarah.

      Personally, she may have been a good match for him, but as far as fitting into the Firm, well, it didn't quite turn out that way...

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    2. Hate to say it I've been picking up the Sarah and andrew. Nothing against me Ghana bUT I think she likes the "celebrity" part the idolation. Harry does great work but I think he still immature.

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    3. * suppose to say nothing against meghan. Spell check on these phones kill me!!

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    4. Andrew & Fergie were 30+ years ago, no? While not as radical, William has been paving the path of protecting a spouse, easing a spouse into the role with support, and having control over how much they work. Harry released an unprecedented statement to defend his girlfriend of a few months, and many applauded him.

      It is my understanding Andrew was away for much of their marriage, and Fergie felt isolated and young.

      I'm not trying to be naive, but rather point out how they have more opportunity. Although, yes, I would feel for Meghan if they become engaged. Kate had a hard enough time being "middle class"...

      It is obvious they have much love and respect for their grandmum, but I don't know if they have as much for Charles. I could see Harry challenging The Firm even more once Charles, his dad, becomes King.

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    5. A, I don't doubt that Harry would be a protective husband even if it meant ruffling a royal feather or two. Ha! We haven't seen true red yet...lol.

      But I do question whether Meghan could be happy in a supportive role in the BRF after living her life as a free agent whose career requires her to be self-promoting. Let's face it; she would be expected to know her place as the wife of the second son. Do you think Charles would ever allow this couple to become the BRF's version of Brad and Angelina (a scenario that fans of this union may have in mind)? I doubt it.

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    6. Couldn't Sophie be a better comparison than Sarah? Sophie was 34 when she and Prince Edward became engaged and she was a working, educated, non royal woman, that he also met at a charity event like Prince Harry did with Meghan. Being a celebrity already she is accustomed to the press and privacy issues so she probably already has a think skin and knows how the PR machine works.

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    7. You do realize that Brad and Angelina are no longer a couple royalfan? And that while they were a couple they teamed up with William & Kate to find common ground with their pet projects.

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    8. Royalfan how do Brad & Angelina compare to Harry & Meghan? I haven't heard this before :-)

      I think she could self-promote, but in a different way. She could promote herself while promoting her causes. Her image and position in life would make people pay attention. It's whether that will be enough for her. Perhaps she would work more than Kate, simply because she needs the work to feel fulfilled. Not judgment on Kate...it's what you see in the real world - women with different needs to feel fulfilled and like an equal contributor.

      ~ A

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    9. Of course I do, 11.00. I should have clarified it. I'm sorry.

      Ellen, yes and no. ☺ Sophie did have PR experience but she was also keenly aware of the problems that Diana and Sarah had in the Firm and she was determined to stay well below the radar.

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    10. ☺ A, it's just the image I get when Harry and Meghan's charitable interests are discussed. And I think some folks anticipate that the couple will run with it and do exactly as they please. Nice idea, but me thinks it will not fly.

      And for the record, this is consistent with my view of W&K's position; they do NOT have complete control over their roles.

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    11. This. Some already have high expectations. In my opinion some just want harry and meghan to override will and Kate cause in some minds. Will and Kate didn't exceed in their expections. Some are going to be disappointed if meghan wants to do what Kate did if she marries harry. That will be putting family first before duties. And being eased into royal life

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  5. Oh they'll get engaged soon no doubt about it. Any chance of a Meghan blog Jane!

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  6. I'm trying to like Meghan Markle, I am. There is nothing for me not to like (except her fashion style, which I dislike), but I am just having a hard time getting on board. I think it's great that she has her own career and does her own charity work (although how much she truly does, I don't know), and I liked the article she wrote recently about girls in India, but I just don't see the unicorn that everyone else does. She's just a woman.

    And in terms of "women who are role models who I respect", I can't get on board the "dropping one's career to marry a man" thing. I know, freedom of choice, but still. It looks bad to me. I just hate how woman are almost always the ones who are expected and/or forced to change their lives in order to further a relationship; how women are almost always the ones compromising in the relationship while the men rarely do.

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    1. Are you a Kate fan?

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    2. I understand where you're coming from Leslie but I do cut the royal brides some slack - they are dealing with a somewhat unique situation

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    3. I do understand and completely relate to how it sticks in your craw that women typically being the ones to give up careers in favor of their husband's. However I don't think the same dynamics apply to royal life and work. We haven't actually seen many marriages of blood royal women marrying men who have normals jobs. The closest we have is the Queen and her Prince. He certainly gave up his military career in deference to the Queen. Same with Lrincess Anne as far as I know (I may be wrong).

      So, my take on the matter is that a royal spouse would need to give up their line of work in order to fulfill the duty that come part and parcel with marrying in to The Firm.

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    4. I don't think because we like Meghan that we think she's a special unicorn. I just think she appears to be a good choice and I'm happy for Harry. I think we have to remember that Harry is dating adult women. They, and their lives, will look different than a 20 year old college student.

      I also remember when JFK Jr. got married and people attacked Carolyn on everything... she wasn't pretty, her family had no money (mom married stepdad who was very $ stable), on and on... What people were really thinking IMO was... They loved John and were skeptical of anyone marrying him. Like a beloved brother, we can be tough on those he dates. I think Carolyn and Meghan both got this treatment.

      While William is the prince and future king, Harry is the one everyone loves.

      I think closing the Twig signals a deepening commitment for them. I'm sure Meghan will be a great partner for Harry if that day were to come.

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    5. I wouldn't say I'm a "fan" per se. I enjoy following various royals like Catherine, Camilla, Sophie, Victoria and Sofia of Sweden, and some others on occasion. But I wouldn't call myself a "fan" of any of them. I definitely think I'm more critical of Catherine and her fashion (which I have not enjoyed at all of late) than a lot of people here. Why?

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    6. You are much nicer than I am, Leslie. I do not even try to like her. I do not dislike her, I am simply not interested. I own I was never that much interested in Harry, perhaps that explains it. But I would have been more interressed in both if she had been personally interesting in my eyes. From reading everybody opinions on this blog, I am sure they will end up married, I just feel it is so obvious, almost boring! IMO of course.

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    7. For whatever reason she at least at this point does not hold much interest to me. For better or worse despite her "causes" etc. she comes across as immature and rather superficial. But I have not looked at her in any depth and this is just based on the few interviews she has given and the little bit of what she wrote on that"lifestyle" blog which seemed pretty lame.

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    8. Can anyone speak to Victoria of Sweden's marriage and what her husband gave up? Just curious.

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    9. I believe he was a personal trainer. I would love to know not only what careers royal spouses must give up but what citizenships

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    10. And I think he owned a gym or two.

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  7. I don't know if a person can join "The Firm" and stay social the way Meghan has been or like Princess Marie-Chantal. Kensington Palace has been increasing their social media presence, learning to share, to put a human face on it, but the British Royal Family is so uneasy with media, so measured in their engagements. Kate has brought a new freshness to everything, but even she is quite measured in her engagements. Kate carries out her royal duties, but seems like more of a homebody than her sister, who seems to want and seek more PR opportunities. Pippa has certainly been overshadowed by the BRF in her attempts to find her own professional place in the world. I think Meghan may bring her social skills to bear on KP and we may see and feel something new in their media presence. It won't be the Tig, and it won't be Marie-Chantal, but it will be something we haven't seen before.

    Meghan is more naturally gregarious and open than Kate. She is comfortable with speeches and interviews. She has also had the desire to communicate widely through an online presences facilitated by social media. She is warm, articulate, and intentional, using any celebrity status for good. She has not shied away from controversy, yet she is politically savvy and media wise.

    If (when) she marries Prince Harry, she will automatically become a senior royal and, given her track record, will want to be active in working alongside her husband. She will also be comfortable working independently, as Kate does. I wonder if there will be any sense of competition between the sisters-in-law or relief at sharing the limelight. I wonder if we might see Kate and William relax a little more. Certainly we will all cheer for Harry, because who doesn't remember his candid interview where he admitted that it's hard to find a woman who wants to share his work? Meghan has already been doing his kind of humanitarian work and she feels like such a natural fit for Harry as a partner and companion, lover and friend.

    I am sure Meghan is approaching her transition with all the savvy and wisdom we have observed up to this point. She may not need the same kind of grooming and protection that Diana lacked and Kate received, but there will still be a learning curve and she will need time and support for the adjustment.

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    1. I absolutely agree with your sentiments.

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    2. I agree, too.
      ~ A

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    3. Excellent words!

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    4. Just yes! I agree. Their humanitarian work is a huge mutual plus. Beautiful souls unite x
      Theresa Qld

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    5. There is no such thing as working independent within the BRF. Everything, no matter what, goes through and is approved by HMTQ, the Home Office, and Scotland Yard. The protection of the members of the family is a very intricate webb. The PPOs are "assigned" to the family members but they are employed by Scotland Yard and are specifically trained in protecting high value targets. It's not taken lightly and no senior member of the family can just go and do what they like, when they like. Even on "personal holidays" like the Cambriges took skiing in France last year they still had PPOs one each for W&K and one for the children. Add in those who watch at night while they sleep and any other protection needed for perimeter surveillance and they are never really alone. I'm just not sure that, no matter how romantic this Harry/Meghan alliance may seem, she truly understands or is prepared for exactly what this would be like. It's hard enough for girls who were born into the aristocracy, or at least into the British understanding, to swallow. It's why the relationship with Chelsy didn't work out. She didn't want the life. Throw being an independent American into the mix and it looks like a recipe for eventual disaster. Kate had ten years to prepare. One year of cross continent dating seems unwise.

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    6. Agree Colleen very well said

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    7. I'm just not sure who you think Harry should marry Robin. The ideal wife you describe - who is happy to be put in her place and never have an independent thought doesn't sound like a good match for Harry even if she might be a good match for the BRF. Are people forgetting his nazi costume and naked Vegas antics? And HMTQ is not going to be calling the shots in perpetuity. As far as understanding the restrictions how do you know that Meghan isn't being educated? Kate went to princess school so there's a model for how it's done.

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    8. Do we even know if Kate went to princess school? Did the palace ever state that?

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    9. I agree, Robin. Life in the BRF is a very controlled life. It was terribly hard for Diana and believe it has been also hard for Kate, though she has her husband's support. But I think it won't be the same with whoever Harry marries, after a while, he will become less relevant, more like Peter Philipps, and have more liberty and less duties. Also, my bet is that after he marries, he won't be as attractive to the public as he now is, and in a few years nobody will remember many though him "cute"...

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    10. I'm just saying, 8:40, that someone whose very career choice is ego driven (all actors are ego driven because they have to sell their brand) combined with our American independent spirit, not brought up to revere the monarchy, will have a harder time. This is not a feminist issue no matter how hard people try to turn it that way. I picture her being bored to tears at garden parties and ribbon cuttings but those things also come with the job. As for HMTQ not calling the shots in perpetuity, Charles will be the same. The security issues will be the same - maybe even more so. Charles is not going to allow his son to go off galavanting around the world without knowing where he is and without his security detail. No matter how far away from the throne Harry is, he will still always be the grandson of the Queen to the son of the King to the brother of the King. The life into which he was born is a fact. I don't think he'll be able to fade into the background like Peter Philipps because his "rank" is different and he's titled. He is the equivalent of Princess Anne, Prince Edward, and even (eye roll) Prince Andrew. Reality is never as fun as romanticism but there is rarely a fairy tale ending for a whirlwind romance.

      You're right, 8:25, the whole princess school thing has never been confirmed. Probably a myth.

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    11. More like Andrew, you're right. But Andrew hasn't the same pressure as Charles, has he? He seems to be able to have downtime. And when I read about his former popularly, the excitement about his marriage...and how little people care for him 30 years later...This could well happen to Harry, he is in the same position. He seems to have another kind of personality, though...8:36

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    12. Who is trying to make it a feminist issue Robin?! So far the discussion has been about personal temperaments and the restrictions on the lives of members of the BRF and whether or not Meghan's personal temperament is well-suited to being constricted in the way some people assume it would be if she marries Harry.

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    13. Yikes! I didn't pick up on the slightest hint of "feminist issue" in Robin's comments. She was very articulate and matter of fact in expressing her opinion of the situation Meghan could find herself in. And talking about the restrictions and expectations within the BRF, as well as pointing out cultural differences, is NOT the same as suggesting that Harry should marry a woman "...who is happy to be put in her place and never have an independent thought..."

      And if anyone believes that Harry would run away from home and live like Joe Smith, I believe you are mistaken. Harry may do things his way, similar to his brother, but at the end of the day he respects and loves his family and I cannot imagine him not supporting William (and Kate) in increasingly demanding roles.

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    14. Royalfan - Robin @ 9:54 "This is not a feminist issue no matter how hard people try to turn it that way." I hadn't noticed any other commenters bring up feminism in any way until Robin did so I was confused about who she thought was.

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    15. When I said "work independently" I was thinking more about Kate working solo and especially how much she has grown in that capacity. So true about the strictures of BRF life! Everyone expects a ring for Meghan sometime soon. I wonder if she'll live with Harry for awhile to get used things before going really public. Their timing will be everyone's curiosity!

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  8. Agree with and love your comment. Well said.

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  9. I like Meghan. I thimk she's an interesting woman with great qualities but I have a bad feeling about this. I think they will get married and have a few kids and then divorce. Over time I think she will find the BRF too restrictive and I don't think the establishment will accept her which will make everything so difficult. I wish I could see a fairytale ending but I don't.

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    1. I'd be lying if I didn't have the same fear. However, Harry doesn't have the same pressures as the Cambridges. He has already fiercely spoken publicly to defend her - can you then imagine what he'd say in private? He may be able to carve out a life where they get enough of what they need. But all marriages are at risk of divorce, it is just that Kate gives us so many reason (that she's shown us over YEARS) that she's in it for the long haul.
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    2. Why won't the establishment accept her?

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    3. I think you just stated it A. Kate is in for the long haul and, it seems, willing to do whatever it takes to make it work. Personality wise Kate is pliable(not in a bad way) and a rule follower. Imo she wants to do what is expected of her in the way it is expected of her. I'm not sure Meghan has the same traits. She seems more independent to me, so I'm not as sure how
      much of herself she would be willing to adjust and let go of to fit the role. But you have a point that they would have a much more secondary role than W & K so maybe Meghan's learning curve won't have to be so steep. Anon 10:27

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    4. I don't know anon 5:45. Maybe all of Britain will fall in love with her but British society is so class conscious and let's face it the BRF and all it's courtiers with the aristocracy thrown in there is an elist system. I think an American actress from humble origins might run into an obstacle or two. It seems Kate has had problems among some of William's friends and she's been around for a long time and knows how things work. I think on the outside Meghan would be accepted but behind her back not so much and that can be difficult if it goes on for years and years. Kate is a tough tough lady. I think Meghan is too but not sure how much she is willing to tolerate for the rest of her life to make a marriage within the BRF work. I think she will have a rougher go of it than Kate just because of who she is. Anon 10:37

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    5. I agree Kate and Meghan may not be much alike personality-wise. But Will and Harry aren't much alike either. So why would we expect Harry to choose a "Kate clone?" Or to date someone on and off for years and years before committing? I have no idea if H&M will marry or if it will last forever if they do. But I can't imagine Harry with someone like Kate as a mate although they seem to get along well as in-laws. Not only are H&W different from each other personality-wise but they (and their wives) have very different roles to play within the RF.

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    6. I agree 7.19.

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    7. Maybe 7:19.... but then again there are already American actresses within the British nobility (Countess of Devon). And for all the British aristocratic snobbery about American wives many of those families would have gone broke if they hadn't imported American heiresses at the beginning of the last century.

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    8. Sorry, what? British society is not class conscious, the class system is a relic for most of us. The ever shrinking upper classes might cling to it but that's it. Tens of millions of us have another opinion.

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    9. That's not what I'm saying Lizzie. Of course, Harry's wife won't be like Kate and her role would be different. What I'm saying is that to survive in the BRF, I think one needs to have a certain type of temperment and the drive to put up with a lot of unpleasantness. That's the cup of tea of a very few people.

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    10. 10:57, there have been actresses that have married into the British aristocracy (Sophie Winkleman) and plenty of American heiresses as well but their husbands have not been fourth in line to the throne. I might add a lot of those marriages weren't exactly happy either.

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    11. Point taken 11:02. She isn't marrying into the tens of millions though. She would be marrying into the shrinking upper classes that still think its kind of important.

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    12. I am not sure which Anonymous wrote back at 11:24 but I was responding to both of the Anons who wrote previously (7:04, 7:19)

      I agree life within the BRF would be intense. And I have no idea if H&M will marry. But from what many posters have said here and elsewhere, sometimes it seems (after Kate/Meghan comparisons have been made) there is a view that “Kate’s way” is the only way to survive the experience. And that dating on and off for nearly 10 years as Will and Kate did is the only way to be sure marriage is a good idea. While I agree Kate has done a very good job (although understandably slow to adjust) but I disagree her way is the only way to success and survival. For example, Sophie has seemed to survive and I wouldn’t say she and Kate are much alike. And while I am certainly NOT saying they won’t be married until “death they do part” Kate and Will’s marriage might not last either. I’m not predicting it won’t but I am saying that at the not-yet-six-year anniversary, it is impossible to tell.

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    13. I think Freddy Windsor's wife is an actress and continued her work at least until the children started arriving.

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    14. Freddy Windsor's wife is Sophie Winkleman mentioned up top.

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    15. Lizzie, Meghan has complete control over her life; she can call the shots and promote herself as she wishes. As the wife of the second son she would not have this same control.

      Kate strikes me as the type who is confident in her own skin and doesn't need to be in control. And Sophie was well aware of Diana and Sarah's lives within the Firm and made it her business to stay well below the radar. Does any of this jive with the life that Meghan has lived so far? I don't think so.

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    16. Any comparison between the generation of women married to the queens sons (Diana, Sarah & Sophie) and the wives of younger royals - Kate and Harry's eventual bride especially - seems like a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. We know how Diana, Sarah and Sophie reacted and behaved in their own particular time which was well before the Internet and social media. We have no idea how Diana and Sarah would have conducted themselves if they had Twitter and Facebook and their own blogs. Diana seriously pushed the boundaries in her own time - how do we know she wouldn't have dabbled in some of the same ventures Meghan has?

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    17. I think I understand what you are saying royalfan. But if Harry's ideal mate is a woman who has not had experience charting her own course, "calling the shots" and experiencing the freedom to make her own choices, it perhaps sounds like he'd need to find such a "girl" in an older adolescent or university population.  Because then the chosen person would not have lived away from her family's home except while at school. If he had done that, no doubt some would point out the large age difference surely didn't help Charles and Diana! And that Diana's youth, lack of uni experience, lack of serious dating experience and lack of separation from her family left her dangerously naive when she agreed to marry Charles. So we're sort of back to the ideal being the W&K "go to uni, date others then date each other seriously, live together, and break up periodically for 10 yrs" path to royal matrimony which was never possible for Harry (and I'd argue wasn't really ideal for Kate either even if it met Will's needs.)  

      MM may not be the right choice for Harry but in this day and age, I can't quite picture a woman remotely close to Harry's age who hasn't worked and lived on her own and thus had had the kind of freedom you seem to be saying would be an impediment to a successful marriage to Harry. The only possible exception I can think of would be a rich socialite devoid of any ambitions or interests in life to pursue. And I expect we'd all say yuck to that! 


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    18. 9.42, I understand your point, but it is relevant to consider how Meghan, or any young lady, would deal with the restrictions of royal life given her personality and life experience. With or without social media, the Firm would expect any young lady who marries Harry to "know her place." And yes, that may be a repulsive concept for some folks, but I believe it's very much the reality behind palace walls. After Diana's star power, they do NOT want to be eclipsed.

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    19. No argument, Lizzie. And a firm NO from me to the idea of him marrying a socialite. Of course any young lady would come with her own life experience at this stage of the game, but Meghan is an ACTRESS. Nothing wrong with that, but I think people in that profession are not passive and self promotion is part of their DNA. Again, how would meghan deal with the restrictions of royal life?

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    20. Acting is hardly the only profession where people need to be assertive and self-promoting. The PR business comes to mind and Sophie Wessex seems to have made the transition just fine. I don't understand why you assume that Meghan would have any greater difficulty giving up her independent public life than any other women would - and as Lizzie points out the likelihood that Harry ends up marrying a woman who will have to go through that process is quite high. She has already shut down her blog - do you think she did it kicking and screaming and is off crying somewhere because she had to make an adjustment in her life for her relationship?

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    21. Maybe harry will break free from the brf if that will make his relationship to meghan work! They can live privately and happily in the states without the protocols but with familie ties to william charles etc

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    22. anon 5:21-your comment followed anon 10:57's reference to the Countess of Devon. It seemed as though your comment regarding Sophie Winkleman was referring to that, as you did not identify whose wife she was. I was just enlarging on your comment, as you did with mine..

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    23. How do we know Diana wouldn't have dabbled in social media? Because HMTQ would never allow it. You notice that, even being divorced, Sarah doesn't run a blog or a twitter account. There are rules, protocols, and the fact that the BRF pretty much own your children to consider. It's perfectly right to compare Diana's generation with William's generation because, for all the boundary pushing Diana did, the old ways are all very much alive. If Meghan truly shut down her blog because of an imminent engagement then that should be your answer right there. Think about how people can hack phones, financial websites, and other online businesses. Security would be a nightmare. Hackers can see exactly where you are blogging from to a room. The amount of people who get their Facebook pages hacked show how little most people pay attention to their online security. Most people who work in either military or civilian national security (the ones who know the secrets) won't even go on FB or any other social media. They know the risks associated with being a high value target - and yes, that's what they're called.

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    24. Sarah's twitter account: https://mobile.twitter.com/SarahTheDuchess?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

      Sarah's Instagram account: https://www.instagram.com/sarahferguson15/?hl=en

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  10. I think all the Middletons looked great for K's wedding. But, that milliner has me deeply concerned!! Yikes!!

    Oh, Pips, ya gotta come through for us on the big day. Don't ruin it. (Cause of course it's all about us!:))

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    1. Pippa's sense of style can be very different than Kate's at times. We won't have to wait too much longer! :-)

      ~ A

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    2. Did you like her ring? I honestly hated it. I wonder how she felt about it, truly. I like rings with very delicate settings. Settings that overpower, no. I wonder if he had help from Kate and/or Carole in picking it out. Just to preview it.

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    3. I like Pippa's ring quite a lot! The milliner, on the other hand, has me a bit concerned as well. Let's hope that the offerings available on the website are just bizarre runway versions of the toned down version normal people wear. Pippa's style, while a touch more edgy than Kate's, is still pretty classic.

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  11. For my part, Meghan ticks all the right boxes for Harry. It's my hope that this relationship lasts and we have a wedding to celebrate. Timing is everything, and I think Harry is itching to settle down and have some kids. She's pretty, she's smart, she's a bit media savvy, she's done humanitarian work, and she has some working knowledge of the way the world works with "celebrity". Joining the Royal Family is another kettle of fish, but she at least has an inkling. Kate is a more reserved personality, and I think Meghan is a bit more ok with a public role (i.e. her acting career and her blog). I think Harry, like William, needs a mothering type figure in their life- Meghan seems like a nurturer like Kate. All of this is conjecture and speculation of course. The longer this relationship goes, the more likely the wedding is going to happen. They are both at a point in their lives where if it was going anywhere, they would've quietly moved on by now. Both of them are past 30, and unfortunately, Meghan's internal clock is quietly ticking. As for Pippa, I would love for the Middletons and the Matthews to release a couple of pictures for their public fans. A large family pic with George and Charlotte flanking the beautiful bride would be swell! I am sure that the Middleton women will ensure that Pippa's wedding will be as perfect as Kate's- these women have skills!!!!

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  12. I am so excited for this potential Megan Harry development (though sad that it involved ending something probably very close to her heart). She and Kate seem to be very different women, but I think they both bring good energy to the BRF.

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  13. I'm excited for Pippa and can't wait to see the gown!

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  14. So everybody assumes that just because she shut down the tig there might be engagement. I figure cause she will be tired of tabs twisting her articles. Again these 2 have barely want to be photograph together and I wouldnt count the wedding. Considering Harry was upset about be papped. I see her in love with the "celeb" aspects but I think if she wants to marry harry she will find restrictions tad boring. That's why I don't see a lasting relationship or marriage between. I still find Harry a bit immature and to me meghan will be doing more mothering than being a supportive partner. Just in my opinion

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    1. I also hope she isn't in it for the celebrity aspect. However, her love/comfort in front of the media and audiences could be an asset if she does love him and is committed to their relationship.

      A benefit to how she handled the paps in Jamaica could be "eff them. I love you, we're on vacation, and we're celebrating your friend's love! Show them we're happy and can ignore them". It doesn't have to be "I love the limelight and he's increasing my profile". Couples are all about balance.

      I think, potentially, she could have a better relationship with the media. She could take less time than Kate to get up to speed on her public role (speeches, going alone on engagements, etc.).

      I believe Princess Margaret was more outgoing and loved the spotlight. At times this caused problems, but she probably had people relate to her and feel comfortable around her much quicker than QueenE did.

      I'm trying to be optimistic and happy for Harry. She'll face enough of an uphill battle with certain people, and I won't be one of them unless she shows me otherwise.

      ~ A

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    2. I'm unclear what you mean by mothering v being a supportive partner?

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    3. She was a celebrity before she met Harry. He didn't make her a celebrity and if increasing her celebrity profile through her choice of boyfriend or husband is truly her goal there are many other men out there other than harry would could give her more of a celebrity lifestyle than being a member of the BRF will ever give her.

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    4. 4:26, I tend to agree with you. This is the reason I made a reference to Andrew and Sarah earlier today; I see the same excitement with the same potential pitfalls.

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  15. Finally, more pap shots of Kate! What struck me is how she was trying to hide her face a bit. Reminded me of how she'd do that pre-engagement. As I've said before, I'm very excited for the wedding!! I also ordered those shoes in gray.

    As for Meghan, I wish them the best. I was nervous after seeing the Jamaica pictures, but then shortly after she was in London and now The Tig closes. She was already involved in good causes and charity work before Harry came along - I can see this being one of their strong foundations as a couple. He can give her access to more opportunities for this, and hopefully she can still find some creative outlets. I actually wonder if Harry would become more independent once Charles is King - I think he'd make more demands for independence than he would with his grandmum. The more I learn about Meghan, although she seems unconventional for the BRC, they really could be so good together! She is educated, has established her own career and passions, is outgoing, has friendships with politicians and media personalities. I think she could be a very different kind of ASSET.

    If they become engaged, I am curious how her fashion transformation will go. Her daytime working attire vs. her evening working attire.

    ~ A

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    1. I think she was hiding her face too but most people seem to think she was not.

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    2. Jennifer from the SouthApril 10, 2017 at 8:44 AM

      She was most certainly hiding.

      I, personally, think she was hiding her hair.

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    3. Jennifer! Now it makes sense. I think you're right. She was hiding her hair.

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    4. Hiding her hair? Why?

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    5. Because it wasn't styled Jay.

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    6. Sorry disagree anon 9:23, but no hiding hair or face due to makeup or styling:). I have no idea if the phone was on purpose but if yes, it was to block the sun, try to not have a camera flash, or just a natural reaction to being mobbed.

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    7. Lol ali. I don't know how you would know that unless you're Kate. All those movements including hiding would look the same.

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    8. I think Ali is simplying giving her opinion. None of us really "know" much about Kate for sure. We are all just chatting for fun. Well, ahem, some of us are....

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  16. The closure of Miss Markle's blog might suggest an imminent engagement, but could be the offer of some future acting role, leaving her no time for blogging.
    If there is a marriage, I hope she and Catherine get along together. Not for Catherine's sake. She has close family around her, but Meghan doesn't seem to have family ties, except, perhaps, her mother, but she will be the other side of the pond!
    The brothers have always been close and with Catherine, the work they are doing is great. I hope an addition to the trio makes it even better.

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  17. Jennifer from the SouthApril 10, 2017 at 8:43 AM

    I am so glad to see these pap shots! ;) I have missed them, and I love seeing Kate out and about... what she's up to.

    However, I would like to use these pictures to point out (for those who refuse to believe) - and I may need to start dodging the rotten tomatoes now - but it is oh so clear that Kate uses hair pieces when on official duty. This is not a dirty secret as SO MANY people use these sorts of hair pieces - even non-celebrities since they are so well made now. BUT - but but but - Kate's hair is not always her own, and insisting otherwise is keeping your head in the sand and being unreasonable.

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    1. Every (candid) celeb swears by them! A lot of tv anchors say they use them too
      Who cares if Kate uses them - it's as routine as using make up anymore. So no rotten tomatoes from me!

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    2. I've said from the get go she uses wiglets etc but I usually get shot down in a big way. Its obvious here though. She has 50% less volume than when we usually see her.

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    3. I don't know if she does or not. But I will say that I have hair like Kate's. And when I wear it down, full of products, blown out, and curled - my hair is huge! The volume, lift, etc. is completely different for me then. Or I can use less product and have a much more subdued look. It's literally like putting on and off the glam factor. No, I have never used any extra hair pieces.

      Not saying this is what Kate does, but it is possible. There were paps shots of her coming right out of the hairdresser (I think she was pregnant) and her hair was huge. It's also the technique used on the hair. I don't think Kate can style her own hair well, blow it out, etc.

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    4. Anon 1:32, Agree, I have similar hair as you describe and with Kates waves hers most likely be huge or much more tamed. I also have no idea what she uses but I would not base my opinion on "volume".

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    5. Oh my, my post at 4:29 was not clear. Must have been trying to talk and type:). What I meant was my hair can go from flat to very very full looking depending on the product or just the blow dry. Kate has more wave and frizz in her hair than I do and her hair will be even more extreme in how full it looks depending on product, style and drying method.

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    6. Nice to see your name on a comment, Jennifer FTS.

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    7. Really, anon1?? Now taking swipes at anonymous commenters? This blog allows people to be anon, not sure why she hat is a concern of yours.

      Live and let live. This is a blog for goodness sakes!

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    8. No, anonymous 1:55- 01:58?....No swipes. She used to comment frequently on another blog I used to comment on and I had not seen her name here recently. That's all. Not sure how you came up with the anon swiping thing but I assume you are the anonymous commenter who follows me and others around, trying to pick a fight.

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  18. Jane, those two Stephen Jones hats/creations you showed in this post are absolutely ridiculous! haha I hope we don't see Pippa in anything quite that wacky...I'm sure he'll come up with something stylish & tasteful, here's hoping :)
    I'm very excited about this Meghan development, although I am having The Tig withdrawals :( I was hoping you might start a Meghan blog, Jane, but I know you have enough on your plate & I see you addressed that subject to a reader in your last post.
    I think Meghan will be a great addition to the royals. She seems smart, kind & most importantly, smitten with Harry! With her acting background, I think her relationship with the public/press will go smoothly for her. Kate has handled herself exceptionally well in the limelight, considering she was new to the game.
    I also like Harry & Meghan's bond with Africa & their humanitarian efforts. I can see them both doing a lot of good, combined with William & Kate's charities.

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  19. P.S. I loved Kate's outfit for Palm Sunday in Dunedin...teal is such a lovely shade on her. I need to get me a pair of those Superga sneakers...they look super comfy!

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  20. Sky News say it is confirmed that Pippa Middleton will Marry on May 29th with Prince George as page boy and Charlotte bridesmaid. Catherine; William and Harry will be there.

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    2. Can't wait :)

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  21. Sorry---think I put 29th, but it is 20th

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  22. Whoa. Why would KP release a statement about Pippa's wedding, even confirming the date? Are there concerns about growing paparazzi interest and their safety? Did W & K do this as a favour to take the heat off? I imagine photogs have been camping out at the Matthews/Middleton home.

    ~ A

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    1. It is weird and a little inappropriate. Pippa has released her own info before and James Matthew and family must have a pr firm on retainer!

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    2. They were announcing 3 engagement for the trio next week.
      I suppose there are 5 residents of KP involved.
      Don't think they gave any other info

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    3. Even dickie arbiter said it was out of line

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    4. The heading on release was "the wedding of James Matthews and pippa middelton" and yes that's how it was spelled by KP!
      Then the first line was "miss pippa Middleton and mr james Matthews are pleased to confirm their wedding will take place etc etc"
      It went on to say who would be attending from KP

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    5. I think it is weird since they typically do not comment on their PERSONAL social calendars. This is not work, regardless of how many KP residents are attending. They didn't announce "W&K will be on respective boy/girl ski trips this weekend and will not attend a Westminster service". Weird to me.
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    6. Really Anon 1:30pm?!?! If so, that is...shameful PR!

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    7. Honestly I do not understand why people think this is such an issue! There are 5 members of the royal family attending. That's what they were reporting on. Also I'm not sure why Arbiter or any other journalist gets to decide what's "out of line."

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    8. I'm with you, Alex. The last thing Pippa needs is PR. I think KP stepped in because of the children and the frenzy surrounding the day. Would it have been better for Pippa's people to release a statement about George and Charlotte? I can just hear the cries of self-promotion and milking their royal connection. She's in a no-win situation really. Bottom line...I hope they have a wonderful day that is circus free. EVERY couple stage manages every detail of their wedding day. Why should Pippa be exempt?

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    9. If it's the last thing she needs why does she have one of the most respected people in the business? Pippa shouldn't release info on royal kids and KP shoukdnt releasebinfo on pippa. The point is these two worlds have to be separate

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    10. I feel 100% certain that Pippa and Kate decided how this statement would read, what would be done, etc. They are close, close sisters. This was their choice, as it should be.

      Pippa recently hired David Beckham's PR firm to handle the wedding. This was all planned.

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    11. The two worlds aren't as separate as some folks would like if a future Queen's sister is getting married, with a royal nephew and neice in the wedding party.

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    12. royalfan and other commenters- please note that my "handle" is anon1, not Anon 1. This is the only blog on which I comment at this time.
      By the way, anon 9:50-( and 12:49?) I wonder where you learned that Pippa hired that PR firm and that it was for handling the wedding? This is all current, so it should not be difficult for you to recall.

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    13. Sometimes Dickie Arbiter is out of line. One must not forget that before he was elevated to a palace spokesperson position he was a journalist and TV/radio commentator and has since gone back to being such. His daughter is now in the employ of CNN. It is in his best interest to be seen as an expert even though he hasn't personally been associated with the BRF for almost 20 years. He's a perfectly likable man and I read his book but let us call things what they are. He is no longer an expert.

      I think the take away from KP officially announcing this is to let it be known that there will be tight security surrounding this wedding so the press should mind their p's and q's. The 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th in line will all be gathered in one place.

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    14. Hmmm...I do usually capitalize "anon" when I answer you, anon 1. Habit to capitalize names probably. But I'm confused about the spacing. You say your name is "anon1" with no space. But on April 10 @ 11:15 the name above the comment appears as "anon 1" with a space but on April 11 @ 10:35 it's "anon1" without a space as it is here @2:02. Are there two different people posting here with similar views with the only difference in the names being a space?

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    15. anon1, so I was talking to you and Anon1 on the April 3rd post or just you. The writing style is the same, I think.

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    16. I am saying that comments under Anon 1 on another blog were not mine. I was not talking about this blog. I should have made that clear.

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    17. Anon1, how about "HA!" for a moniker? Not that it would solve the problem, but I couldn't resist. :-)

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  23. Odd but they are probably just trying to manage the press some because I wouldn't be surprised if it was getting out of hand. Maybe since this happened, KP will release a family photo of the Cambridges from it to keep the press vultures at bay.

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  24. I'm shocked that anyone is surprised KP released an announcement about heirs to the throne participating in or being in attendance at the wedding. The sister of the future Queen of England is getting married -- one future King will be a member of the wedding party, and another will be in attendance. Of course KP is going to make an announcement. This is not just a private affair. This is, in essence, the very first official engagement of the future King George's life. It would be ridiculous for KP to NOT make an announcement in this day and age of social media.

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    1. Except it is not an official engagement. It's private. A family wedding.
      William has attended a ton of weddings never a press release in sight. And if they stuck to the fact they're attending that's one thing but it's not for KP to confirm details of a non royals private life.

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    2. How is this an official engagement? George meeting the Obamas fits that bill better.

      KP goes to extreme lengths not to comment on anything regarding personal events of W&K. This wedding is clearly that. In fact, Pips new PR lady said today they wouldn't be commenting on it because it's a personal, family event.

      I think the PR lady asked KP to make an announcement to take pressure off of Pips' camp. But it certainly is a great departure from normal protocol for KP. But if you can't break rules for a sister's wedding, than when can you?

      I also hope they release a few pics. Pips is a public figure now, being an author twice, charity spokesperson, etc. Completely shunning all interest of the public's is not a good idea, IMO.

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    3. I keep looking for a date on the reported KP announcement-April 1 is the only date I will accept. I have also looked in vain both for any letterhead or indication that any of the versions of the Pippa wedding announcement can be directly attributed to KP. Every other communication from KP has had a letterhead ID, unless it appeared directly on a royal site. That's the purpose of a letterhead-identification of source. I have yet to see this announcement actually appear on KP Twitter site. I am waiting for the hacking announcement. It is all too bizarre. Has the wedding date been announced in the local paper?-the usual form for those seeking a typical country church wedding. I think some were on to the possibility of another wedding scenario and those royal writers who have been proclaiming that date,based on a save the date card supposedly sent to friends by the couple, had invested in their story being substantiated. That card was the basis for this, as far as I can tell, with resultant speculation filling in details not ordinarily given on such notices..

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    4. Anon 1 ~ I too checked their twitter and looked online for the statement on their letterhead. Nothing. Yet KP hasn't denied it yet. I'm not saying they can't do something unprecedented, but it is all so odd.
      ~ A

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    5. anon 1, I was looking for the announcement on KP's twitter, but alas, it's not there! & no KP letterhead & a spelling error in Pippa's surname? Wouldn't they use her full name, Phillipa, for an official announcement?

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    6. *Philippa - sorry, talk about spelling errors in names!

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    7. Ok ladies, you made me look and now you have me wondering...not sure what to think.

      Smoke screen?

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    8. I think you could be right, royalfan...something seems amiss.

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    9. It is a very odd announcement. The typos make it seem like it came from KP but you make a good point Anon 1. It doesn't matter that 5 royals will be going. KP should not be making announcements foŕ Pippa and James nor making announcements about private events IMO. I do wonder about Pippa's PR team although it seems too incompetently written to have come from anywhere but KP. IF it did come from her team not KP, KP might not deny it to avoid embarrassing the Pipster. Because if it is faux and from her team (smokescreen or not) but claims to come from KP that would and should be very embarrassing to her. It does seem to me there has been an awful lot of "wedding news" that could not have come from Spencer (mentioned as a possible leaker about the occurrence of the hen party) so it seems to me her recently hired PR team has a hand in some of it.

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    10. "...it seems too incompetently written to have come from anywhere but KP."

      lizzie, lol! So true.

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    11. Perhaps KP cannot deny being the source for the announcement without commenting on the wedding itself. To deny would set off a press feeding-frenzy of speculation worse than the current one...who DID send the announcement directly to the press and why, etc. Perhaps it was a disgruntled royal writer trying to point out that they have been left out of the loop and that KP has been issuing photos and info about the royals directly, instead of first informing the royal press followers? However, most of them would not have put out such a pitiful product. It almost seems as though it could be one of those hackers a politician recently mentioned who sits on his bed in some far-off area typing away at his lap top. If it is fake news, the only recourse I see is for Mr. and Mrs. Middleton to publish a small notice in the local or parish news with an announcement of date and place and possibly officiant. All that is really required. However, if the plan does include an earlier date to ward off press and crowds of curious in the area, blocking traffic and causing security issues, they could not make that announcement. I have conjectured that the only reason for not personally making an announcement from the family is that the information put out by the royal writers is not correct. This way, if the wedding occurs earlier they can deny they ever stated the date. The "save the date" cards could have been a red herring. By not clearly identifying KP in this current sad specimen of a press release, they can deny making the statement, citing the errors we have noticed. Yet there is a bonus from that statement of quieting rumors about the date, thus confirming the information a royal writer gave out as an exclusive. Clever ploy by someone--it may have back-fired.----- Also, I am trying to figure out the source of the information about Pippa's hiring of a PR firm strictly for wedding publicity. I could certainly understand the general need for a PR person. I think it possible the paps and gossip turned James off to the relationship the first time they were a couple. It may be a defensive plan. I still don't understand who started that PR " Facility" story. I know it (hiring PR just for a wedding) makes Pippa look like she is promoting herself; which seems to be the opposite of what she and James have been doing since the engagement. I believe someone up comment section said a PR lady said "No comment," which sounds more likely to me.

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    12. Perhaps the typos from the actual current KP staff will be a thing of the past with new people now involved. This email announcement had problems beyond typos. I seriously think it was not done by someone knowledgeable in current English language usage and customs. As I said, Google translate reminiscent.

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  25. I agree it is an odd post. I do not think it matters protocol wise in this day and age, but it is odd. As others have said it may simply be due to the fact that there are 5 "Royals" going to an event? But who knows. I have not looked at the original KP press release but if they did not capitalize names or use formal titles(Mr. Ms) I find it awful that a professional Pr firm is so lame. I do actually find it an odd post even without being a stuffy, it is just weird that any wedding announcement are not coming from the couple themselves or the parents of the couple. Never do you see info coming from a sister, brother, cousin etc etc.

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  26. It's being reported that KP are organizing for a limited number of press photographers to have access and share the pictures with rest of media.
    I suspect KP are taking charge to prevent a huge scrum of paps around the two little ones.
    Seems a sensible arrangement to me

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    1. Really?!? All this is about George and Charlotte?? I don't think so. From some comments on here, it appears that a few think these little ones are dipped in gold, instead of being what they are - kids. They are so precious that KP must overtake media inquiries for the bride and groom?? Give me a break.

      I think any comments by KP were done with Pips full authority and at her request.

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    2. These two little ones are directly in line for the throne of England. How can anybody live in today's world and not see the value of doing whatever it takes to protect these people? I am sure that Pippa did not instigate this announcement, nor is KP overstepping their bounds. After the pap shots of Kate, Carole, and Pippa over the past couple of days, with corresponding headlines, I'm thinking that either W&K or their PPOs thought this would be a better way to deal with the over zealous press. Sometimes they strike a deal with the photogs about arranging for photo release or photo call in exchange for some peace and family time. This happened almost every time Diana went on a personal holiday.

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    3. Robin, very well said. It amazes me that people can dismiss the precautions and security concerns while the world is going mad right before our eyes. I wouldn't trade my anonymity for all the tea in China.

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    4. Right there with you, royalfan. Even in anonymity we all have to be on the lookout. I can't imagine having a target painted on my forehead, let alone that of my children!

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    5. The concern over security isn't odd to me. But it would have been 100% better if the Middletons or both sets of parents or Pip and James themselves had first made an announcement about the time and place of the wedding. KP could have then followed up with an announcement about PG and PC's participation and then worked on whatever photog access would be allowed. (Not sure ANY access has to be allowed..the church is on private property. This likely means the photogs at the Christmas walk with the Middletons were approved in advance by Will too. As would photogs at Easter services at that church if they were going.) The way it was done, typos aside, was stupid IMO. KP shouldn't have made an announcement on behalf of two private citizens. It doesn't matter Pip is Kate's sister. That's not rocket science! And everyone had months to figure this out. It wasn't an emergency where no one had time to think things through, especially if the wedding is more than a month away. (And if its not on May 20 and KP is creating a smokescreen with a false date, that goes too far even for security since the church is on private land. There were plenty of things that could have been done by the Middletons vs involving KP) It may be it was felt action was needed fairly immediately but an announcement from SOMEONE about the date (besides KP) could have come in the AM and the KP announcement in the PM.Just terribly bad judgment to do it this way. I assume Will not Kate had to ultimately make the decision for a KP blurb....no way I'd believe HMTQ thought that announcement was a good idea (and "the Queen approved" is the usual defense we here on the blog when Will does something iffy)

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    6. Lizzie, two private citizens who are getting married are not required to issue a public statement to clarify things for the press. IF the KP statement is legit, then the purpose was to take the reins given the participation of five senior royals.

      Ideally, the bride and groom might be dreaming about a wedding day that is totally off the radar.

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    7. lizzie- your premise that KP actually put out that announcement is the basis for your entire comment. I don't think a current KP employee was authorized to send that email. I doubt it even originated with KP. I don't know why that concept is so hard to accept, as shocking as it may seem-that someone hacked an email of a prominent organisation ...Ha!....My personal email has been hacked Attachments are being added to emails of family members who have not sent the attachments....The reason for no family announcement could be as I stated above: deniability. Apparently, it is convenient to let people believe the royal writer's exclusive based on a save-the-date card. Or maybe that writer is best friends with the Middletons or someone in the Matthews family. A possibility, since there have been a number of leaks..or made-up stories.. that do not promote a positive image and most likely did not come from any real or imaginary "wedding PR expert." I don't believe a real source was ever given for that detailed description of Pippa's wedding plans.....How James and his family must hate all this! I do agree with you, lizzie-a simple parish or local news announcement would have eliminated some of this current brouhaha, but not some of the other snide rumors promoted as fact. And, of course, the family could not make that announcement if it isn't in fact true.

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    8. Royalfan and anon1...You two seem to be saying different things and have different views about the origin of the announcement so I'll address your replies one at a time..royalfan, no, private citizens don't have to do anything. No announcement was required regardless of any security concerns about the bride's relatives. But KP making the  announcement it apparently did using the wording that was used stating the announcement was on behalf of P&J strongly implies these private citizens DID do something. And that something was to agree to let KP speak for them. That was wrong. Wrong of KP and wrong of P&J. IF the announcement is real, and P&J did not agree to it but knew it was going to be made without their approval because of security concerns (an announcement presumably approved by Will unless his staff is totally rogue), that was definitely wrong of KP but also seems sort of peevish of the others. PC and PG are Pippa's neice and nephew after all. It would seem for the safety and well-being of the children there would have been cooperation even if it was not "required." It's not as though Pippa could possibly be surprised there is more interest in the wedding since the royal children are involved. (I know she told Matt Lauer the family didn't realize there would be so much interest in Kate's wedding until the day of the ceremony but that really did not ring true to me.) It just seems sometime in the 9-10 months since the engagement was announced a better PR arrangement could have and should have been made. And the report that Pippa hired a PR agent in the last few weeks doesn't make this whole thing look better. If the announcement on behalf of P&J is from KP but contains extensive fake info, that goes too far IMO even in the interests of security. And if it is from KP but was made without P&J's knowledge, that was wrong not to mention a very odd stand for Will to take. Surely people who believe the announcement was real don't think it was made without Will's knowledge.

      Anon1..I know you believe the announcement is fake and did not really come from KP. In other comments I agreed with that view as a *possibility.* But none of us knows one way or the other. I don't think using "Pippa" instead of her full given name means anything at all since "Pippa" was used when the engagement was announced last summer. So in my recent comment I was responding to a point made that the announcement and photog arrangements were necessary and that KP had to act even to the point of speaking publicly for private citizens. And I disagree with that view. And yes, an announcement of the date via the church or local paper a while ago would have been a good thing and would have prevented some problems. Different wording so the announcement wasn't made on behalf of P&J would have helped too.

      And for the record, I am not convinced Pippa wants a completely private affair. I doubt she wants a media frenzy but I am not convinced she'd like complete privacy either.

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    9. Another site claims direct knowledge from the "Telegraph" that the press received an email from KP and then that information was tweeted out with at least one press person using a screenshot of the email in their tweet.

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    10. Read that statement from the other site again, ali. The one I read concerning the Telegraph said that The Telegraph asked if Harry would be bringing a date and KP declined to answer and would be giving no further information. The statement from the blog was worded so that people might assume that the purported KP press release was the first information. There were other possible implications. One must read carefully these days.

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    11. Lizzie, if I was the sister-in-law of a future king and had his (and my sister's) children in my wedding party, I would have no problem bowing to the way THEY wanted to present and handle it. It's my understanding that the statement WAS legit so I feel confident in restating my original take on this...it was about taking the reins, for the sake of the children, on what could easily turn into a media circus. I can understand W&K's desire to do so on behalf of their children AND the Middleton's willingness to yield to KP for the sake of their grandchildren.

      General statement here but, honestly, people are going on about this as if KP issued these types of statements on a regular basis. This is a once in a lifetime (hopefully ;-) scenario for the sister of a future Queen. And it's 2017; KP shouldn't be expected to operate the way it did in the Queen Mother's day.

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    12. Maybe royalfan. But I expect in the Queen Mother's day written statements that were released didn't have spelling and capitalization errors!

      I think one of the reasons it seems so weird is that KP has made such a point of not commenting on "private matters" and "private events."

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    13. Lizzie, no argument from me about spelling lol.

      But, IMO, a general policy of not commenting on personal matters doesn't mean that KP waives the right to do so when the situation warrants it. The press office should be free to act/respond "as needed."

      The press frenzy over this wedding has turned it into a not-so-private event. Similarly, Harry's statement regarding Meghan was a scenario where what should be a private matter called for KP to issue a statement. Not many complaints about that; heck Harry was cheered for doing so. Double standard there....regarding KP *and* the treatment of William and Harry.

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    14. No double standard at all, royalfan. Had the MM statement said "MM is pleased to announce she is engaged in a romantic relationship with PH and she and Harry request..." that would have been as big a mistake as this statement was as this one began by saying "PM and JM are pleased to announce..." Either would have been an announcement on behalf of non-royals and that's not KP's job. The purpose of the P&J blurb may have been security but the wording was wrong for that IMO as it began with an announcement by private citizens. The discussing of royal attendance at a private event is only ONE of the issues with the P&J blurb.

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    15. If I may add, "If it doesn't look like a duck, walk like a duck, or quack like a duck....it's NOT a duck. Just substitute KP press release for duck (snide comments about past KP grammar errors aside.) No one, including a royal reporter, has shown a copy that identifies that email as a KP publication. The part of the header that did ID the source was edited from most of the tweets and re-tweets of one writer's screenshot... "Facility for..." was omitted. Until I see some acknowledgement by KP in its own twitter site or some proof of a KP ID being on that email I will continue to doubt its source. Either the reporters deleted the KP ID or it was never there. Neither speaks well for credibility. ------- Answer this question before listing criticisms of KP or the Middleton family based on that email's
      being authorised by William or current senior staff at KP. It may be an authorised KP press release, but I doubt it and I think the rampant rhetoric on the internet criticizing KP and the Cambridge/Middleton families should be considered unsubstantiated until such proof is produced. I think it is possible that some reporters jumped the gun here in several areas and cannot admit it. They have gone too far out on the rumor/mud-slinging limb to back down now.My theory is if there were a KP ID on the email, it would have been on the tweets to give them credibility. KP can't deny it without opening a can of worms...who did send it and was the information actually correct? I think the matter could be under investigation and we may or may not know the outcome, depending on the findings. If it was the unauthorised work of a current or past employee or a foreign hack, we may never know. We may be informed if it involved a tabloid source, for example. ------The wedding WILL happen at some point, the dust will settle. Most will forget this. I won't. No one has given any indication for the source of the Pippa PR wedding-focused guru rumors circulated elsewhere and no one has proven the email was from KP, yet the criticisms continue. This rumor mindset is the underbelly of the internet and I won't take part in it.-----by the way, lizzie, "P&J blurb?"

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    16. PS-I believe the complete part omitted that gave the source was; MEDIA FACILITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE ROYAL FAMILY" then the tweet copy starts with ...Who will be attending..."

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  27. I believed that this blog was about the Duchess of Cambridge and up to a certain point, her family, the Middletons. Why then is there a discussion about Meghan Markle? If you, Jane, want to follow Ms. Markle like you do Kate, then why don't you start a blog about her and stop mixing her up with Kate?

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    1. Hi Anon, you seem confused about the blog, so let me quickly explain: this blog is about the Duchess of Cambridge--both her fashion and her life. I don't cover the Middletons "up to a point," I really cover them whenever they are out and about. So, I cover them as thoroughly as I can. I occasionally and to a far lesser extent, make mention of Meghan Markle because she is now part of Kate's royal sphere. She is dating Prince Harry and she is in the running to be Kate's sister-in-law and the aunt of the future king. She is an appropriate topic for this space. Hope that clears things up! Thanks for reading the blog!

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    2. Jane, I laud you for printing such comments, let alone dignifying them by a reply. Many bloggers would quickly dispatch such confrontational comments without publishing them. (I suspect you have had to do this with the worst ones) It is to your credit that yours is the most democratic, open, yet generally kind Kate forum on the internet. I just regret that you have to deal with such remarks; but I realise , as you likely do, that there is a fine line between moderating and censorship-which you tread admirably. PS- Harry himself made Miss Markle a valid topic for discussion here, no matter what personal opinions some may have about the young woman. She is an acknowledged part of his and therefore Kate's life, as you pointed out.

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    3. Anon1,

      Your demeanor on this blog tends to be very combative and, many times, I don't understand why. You wrap it up as a defense of Kate or Jane, but really it's not. Perhaps if you put down your sword it will be a better experience for all.


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    4. I agree Anon 10:16. I don't want to comnent anymore because of it.

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    5. Anonymous 10;16-and also anon 10:34? Good to see you are so agreeable--with yourself? I am sure there are other fun activities beyond following people around on blogs and perhaps venting old issues. Since I seem to be your favorite target, I will remove myself. Perhaps the sniping from anonymous commenter(s) will then cease. HA! also anonymous 5:47 ??!! You went after Jean, for goodness sake.

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  28. It is odd, to say the least to have KP making announcements on behalf of Pippa. And, with the typos, it becomes suspect, to me at least. Now I hear they have removed the announcement. Anyway, I am sure the children will be adorable, and it will be fun to see the pictures/videos.

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  29. Not being allowed to comment after your remark, Tedi...As I have commented in multiple posts, I think that announcement is a hoax, the wedding plans and date a story circulated as fact but based on little verification. I mean, how hard would it be to run down invitations, caterers, tent renters, valet services,,,,It may have started out as an attempt to put off the press by sending those save-the-date cards--honestly, why would they do that, knowing someone would "share" with the press? Or maybe that was the goal. At any rate, their attempt to have a private, personal wedding has failed. Once the royal family is involved that seems an impossible goal, barring elopement to Scotland-but, too late now. It is a PR nightmare. Again, I may end up consuming a hat sandwich on the village green, if the wedding actually happens as the KP press release announced. I would truly enjoy a wedding in that beautiful, ancient church among close friends and family with a lovely garden reception to follow at her parents' 5.6 million home, with darling George a page and sweet Charlotte a bride's maid.... (again, the price of their home... does this sound like something either KP or the Middletons would include?-----and didn't that announcement say "close family and friends?" Another clue to a probable Google translate assisted author.

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  30. Oh my it does sound odd. I had not checked to see if it was on the official KP site, maybe they were hacked?

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  31. Hi Jane: I beg to differ: Meghan Markle is in the periphery of Kate’s royal sphere. She will be a part of that sphere if and when she and Prince Harry become officially engaged. But, of course, this is your blog and you can write about whom you please in it. On another point, just because I post a comment in your blog disagreeing with any of your opinions, it doesn’t mean that I am being confrontational (as per Anon1: April 11, 2017 at 11:36 AM). I don’t mindlessly follow the majority. I have a mind of my own, and I think that if I express my opinions without insulting you or anyone else, no one (including Anon1: April 11, 2017 at 11:36 AM) has any grounds on which to object. Finally, I have no reason whatsoever to hate or dislike Meghan Markle. It is very disappointing that the instant that one expresses a view about someone (no matter how moderate), those who disagree immediately rise up accusing one of hostility and worst against that person (as per Anon1: April 11, 2017 at 11:36 AM).

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    1. I think Meg is a great subtopic here. Kate is very close to Harry and who he marries will be a sister-in-law to Kate, live at KP, etc. The whole world is interested in Harry and Meghan. Even though we just found out they were dating towards the end of 2016, because of this, Meghan became the most googled actress of 2016. And it wasn't because of Suites. People really care about Harry and who he marries, Kate included.

      I personally think the subtopic people add flavor to the blog.

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    2. anon 4:30 etc.- to paraphrase your remark to Jane, " if you anonymous wish to follow a Kate blog, why don't you start your own Kate blog and stop mixing up expressing a view with making a judgement?" That is almost the definition of confrontational.

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    3. Agree Anon 544 and 741.
      I'd like to see how long any blog would last if some got their wish and you could only comment "oh I love this blouse" "what pretty earrings".
      Sorry, but BORING! Comment sections would shrivel up and die and the blog traffic with it. Go ahead. Try it.

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    4. Prince George and Princess Charlotte are going to be in the wedding party and there will be pictures. Hooray! Nice to have it confirmed so that at least some of the speculation can die down. As for who and how it was announced I don't really care. But to those who say the BRF never report on private events, they did announce that the Queen, Prince Philip, and I think Prince Andrew, would be at the service for the late Lord Snowdon. Can't think of a more private affair than that. He wasn't a relative of any of them - although a former spouse of the late Princess Margaret. So--- even more removed than Pippa from William. I'm just sayin'...

      In any event, I look forward to May 20th and wish Pippa and James the wedding they hope to have.

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    5. Hi Jane,

      Lord Swondon was a former member of the RF and had taken many official portraits for them. I think the palace wanted people to know the Queen would be honoring them. And even though he was an ex of her sister's, they were married for years and shared children. So the Queen was also showing respect to her sister and her children and I think the palace wanted people to know this.

      KP constantly, and snidely, remarks all the time that they won't be commenting on private events. So that's why this is puzzling. Maybe, more accurately, KP should just say they'll comment only when they want to with no real "rules" in place!

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    6. Honoring him is what I meant....

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