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William and Kate's July Visit To Germany & Poland

Sunday, March 5, 2017

I know I have a lot of German and Polish readers, and we join you in your excitement over the recent news that the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will undertake a trip to your two countries this summer! Kensington Palace announced the trip on Friday, stating simply the visit would take place in July. Royal reporters have confirmed that more details about the tour will be forthcoming as we get closer to the date. 


At the moment, we do not yet know if this will be a full length tour or a mini-tour. We are all familiar with full tours. The Cambridges' longest tour to date (hopefully never to be equalled ;)) was, of course, Australia and New Zealand in 2014:


Other full tours have included their jaunt through South East Asia in 2012:


And recently their trip to India and Bhutan in the spring of 2016.


In the winter of 2014, however, the Cambridges undertook their first mini-tour (day trip to Denmark excepted). The couple flew to New York for a whirlwind few days in the Big Apple, which included a quick flight down to Washington, D.C. for William, while Kate remained in New York. By the way, since Kate gave Washington a pass then, I think she is due in the District at her earliest convenience. ;) 


The Duchess was supposed to spend two days in sun-soaked Malta in late summer of 2014, but her hyperemesis gravidarum with Princess Charlotte precluded her from traveling. Prince William went in her stead. Below, Kate wears a Jenny Packham in October of 2014 that I am convinced was initially designed for her canceled Mediterranean debut. 


Although details on this upcoming tour are sparse, there have been a few things that have surfaced. According to the Telegraph, the couple will meet with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in an attempt to "detoxify" the tension from Brexit. They will also head to Poland to meet Prime Minister Beata Szydlo and possibly visit the most infamous of concentration camps:
During the trip to Poland they are expected to meet Beata Szydlo, the Polish Prime Minister, and visit the site of the Auschwitz concentration camp.
It really is too early for me to reasonably speculate on the length of the trip and I could argue it both ways. Up to this point, we have seen the Duke and Duchess spend a week or more in Commonwealth countries, and shorter two day trips to allied nations. Obviously on a trip to a country that retains the constitutional monarchy--where they are the royal family--it is of paramount importance that they cover a lot of ground and meet as many citizens as possible, e.g. Australia, Canada, etc.  But when they visit nations that are only friends and allies, like the United States or the Netherlands, the focus of the trip is not so much on the people as their ties to the government, so the visits are correspondingly shorter. That being said, there is quite a bit they could see in Germany and Poland, but I think it won't be a full tour. We shall see! 

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  1. Sonja from BavariaMarch 5, 2017 at 2:50 AM

    I am sure they'll visit Berlin, but I am so hoping for Munich as I canget there in 1 hour. Fingers crossed! Hopefully, this tour will be more than just 1 day in every country, maybe 5 days altogether so that they will spend 2 - 3 days in each countr? If we are lucky with the weather, the summers in Germany are beautiful! I wonder if she'll wear any local designers?

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    1. I'm excited for the possibility that you may see Kate, Sonja!
      And I too wonder - any local designers? How exciting!

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    2. Sonja from BavariaMarch 6, 2017 at 1:28 AM

      I so hope they'll visit my neck of the woods ;)
      I was thinking maybe Escada? I briefly browsed through their website and saw several pieces I could imagine on Kate...

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    3. I think Escada would be a great match for Kate.

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    4. I wonder why Kate hasn't worn Escada before. The styles are so complimentary to Kate's shape and very much in line with her tastes. Simple and classic lines with gorgeous fabrics!

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    5. She hasn't let us down so far on wearing local designers ,I don't believe, I don't see this time being any different...

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    6. She hasn't let us down before I don't see why she would now?!? Do we know the itinerary for Paris? I say something old and something new!!!! Maybe Dior or Versace or one of the big French brands she hasn't worn before?? Who was Diana wearing on her trip? Perhaps one of those designers???

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  2. How exciting! I wish they would do a day trip to Vienna, so I'd get a chance to see them! :-)

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  3. I'm a fan of the Duchess since 2001, maybe 2002. I have always wanted to meet Kate and now I can't wait to see her in July! I live in Poland so in my opinion the Cambridges will go to Warsaw (capital city) to meet Beata Szydło and President Duda. Then they can go to Cracow - it's really popular tourist destination, there is the beautiful Old City and Wawel - the castle where the graves of great Poles are. I think it would be nice if they laid flowers on Kaczyńskis' tomb - our President and his wife died 7 years ago as a result of plane crash... Auschwitz-Birkenau is placed about 60 km of Cracow. Terrible place, especially Birkenau. Tones of hair and thousands of suitcases, shoes, glasses were the most heart-breaking exhibitions for me.

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    1. anon 7:27-The Old City in Cracow is beautiful. I believe it has been used as a setting for scenes from films featuring old Eastern European ambiance. I know Kate would especially enjoy the architecture. anon1

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    2. Sonja from BavariaMarch 6, 2017 at 12:35 PM

      That sounds perfect for Kate, but I don't think she will have any say in what cities to visit? The government plans the stops, doesn't it? However, there are so many gems of architecture that Kate could enjoy, like you mentioned Krakau; or Munich :)

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    3. You really Think they should vidut a grave of Kaczyński? Why? Because he died in a plane crash? Don't będzie redicoulous

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  4. My guess is two, perhaps three, days in each country while George and Charlotte stay home with Grandma and Grandpa M. Exactly as Jane pointed out, this is about government ties (and not introducing the Cambridge's as a family).

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    1. I agree, royalfan, two or three days in each country sounds like a fair prediction.

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    2. I agree, royalfan. I think they would take George and Charlotte with them if this were going to be a full length tour. Your guess of two-three days in each country seems to be the right balance. I also agree with Jane that this most popular of royal couples will meet with Ms. Merkel as an attempt to ease the bitterness over Brexit.

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    3. William previously met with Ms. Merkel and gave a significant speech themed on unity. I think they're bringing in the big guns, including Catherine this time. Ha!

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    4. Sonja from BavariaMarch 6, 2017 at 12:32 PM

      I really hope it will be 2 or 3 days in each country so that they will also visit other cities and not only the capitals :)

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    5. Big guns indeed. 😊

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  5. Was their fall trip to Canada not considered a "full tour" for some reason? You listed Indi/Bhutan as the most recent full tour and I'm not trying to correct you, but I'm genuinely curious if there was a reason you left Canada out, since it (to my mind) is the most recent full tour. Are there intriciacies of defining these tours I have been ignorant of? I must know! :)
    -TMM

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    1. Hi TMM--there is no reason. Canada was a full length tour, but I was in a hurry when I wrote this and frankly, during the semester, my mind is never fully focused on blogging. Usually various parts are calculating how much time I have left to blog and what needs to get done for the next day, etc. I have made a lot of different little errors recently (e.g. calling Kate's McQueen gown an Erdem, etc) and I can't promise this will be the last time I mess up during the school year, but experience thus far shows that I will be more focused after the semester. :) I will try to slow down and be more careful!
      I will say that to me, Canada II was not as big of a deal as the India/Bhutan tour, and that may have been the reason my brain pulled up India rather than Canada when I was hammering this out last night. But, I would count Canada as a full-length tour. I will amend the post.

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    2. Thanks! And I really wasn't trying to correct; just curious! You never know when something is Something and when it's just nothing. ;)
      -TMM

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    3. At any given time, it sometimes seems as though some British royal or another is visiting Canada. This is not to under-value Canada's importance- I think it is similar to an actor's neglecting at the Oscars to thank his spouse-ever present, dearly loved, but sometimes over-looked. Of course, both Canada tours were major. I tried to think of ways that the India tour could have been more significant than Canada II, other than the involvement of two countries.I think the difference is in the nearly opposite personalities.(if one may use that term) India is seen as colorful and exotic, while Canada's image is quiet, respectful beauty. All my observations only, of course. I believe the photo of Kate in the shimmery blue suit and block heels was from Canada. (?) Not really left out. That is a killer outfit, by the way. Then, the Calgary Round-up outfit from the first tour...the stunning red and blue arrival outfits from Canada tours I and II-very appropriate. Compare to her India arrival outfit.

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    4. HM is Head of State in Canada, whilst India is a republic. Makes quite a difference for visits.

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    5. That's true, Jean, and it is certainly significant; however, I was trying to think why the India visit would seem major, or more so than the Canada II visit. I went on to consider why the India visit may have left a stronger impression. A number of people expressed disappointment with the Canada II tour and I couldn't understand the rationale behind that opinion. With HM being Head of State in Canada, one would assume visits there would take priority. I actually think each visit stands alone and had apparently different goals in mind-with trade and tourism being at the top of the list for both, however. I am also continually impressed that the Duchess is able to capture the spirit of a country or group and not just to make the obvious and somewhat superficial observances-green in Ireland, for example. If highlighting her role as a Duchess had been most important, she would have dressed for the India visit as she did in the Netherlands. No references to ambient culture, unless those pearl earrings could be counted-which was a bit amazing in itself. Contrast her appearance there and in India. It seems to me the priority there was forming a sharing, a bond. She does a similar thing with her use of color and design- the charity visits. I don't mean to imply that every item she wears is significant, but I do personally believe she has taken HM's game and added her own subtle touches. I think the difference in her arrival outfits in India and Canada, beyond just the significance of color and the maple leaf brooch , illustrates my point.
      I'll be interested to see what the Duchess chooses for her up-coming tours and visits. To borrow from anon 11:32, "you never know when something is Somethig and when it is just nothing. Should be required reading to access the internet.

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    6. It seems to me the difference in the overall impact of the India tour and the second Canadian tour went far beyond Kate's clothes and any impression her clothing choices made. The India tour was filled with more "public" activities and photo ops (with that one awkward exception.) Each day was pretty filled up. Canada II seemed to be more of a "Canadian PM attempts to garner good PR especially re: the First Nation peoples" tour plus a bit of private vacation thrown in for the Cambridge family. Most days the public activities seemed to run from only about 11-3 in part because the PM had promised the schedule would offer plenty of private family time (to get W&K to bring the children.) It's understandable W&K would have wanted that private time but it still seemed C II was less of an intense, memorable tour for that reason. And it sounds like the private time didn't totally work re: the kids because it was quickly announced after C II the children would not travel abroad again any time soon.

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    7. Anon 1, 11:57: this shimmering blue suit is NOT from a Canada tout. It is of their engagement tour, actually their last appearance before their wedding. Starchild

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    8. I'm guessing Kate will wear British fashion in Germany and Poland and can't think of anything sartorial that would give a nod to either country. I don't think we'll see them turn up in lederhosen and a dirndl (Ha! Can you imagine?). There are still many wary feelings with regard to Germany that will probably take another generation to soften. I'm guessing that if they visit somewhere such as Auschwitz or Dachau we will see something akin to what they wear on Remembrance Day. I don't think we can only assign the Brexit issue to the political climate when a visit to Germany and Poland is in the offing - at least not on the British side.

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    9. Don't think that the kids will not travel with W/ K has as much to do with it not working out in Canada, but rather the age and schooling of the kids. Also don't think that they had as much family time as observers think. Canadian distances are vast and even though we only saw them during the times of the engagements, they had to get to and from the locations. Maria probably was not on duty 24 hours. It must have been an exhausting tour both physically and mentally.

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    10. Thank-you, Starchild. I thought of that possibility after I wrote it. ..explains my question mark. I realised it would have certainly been included in a favorites list for 2016. The block heels fooled me-I didn't think they were popular then and she did introduce that marvelous oxblood pair during Canada II. Maybe "what goes around..." .

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    11. Lizzie- you may have forgotten to factor in travel time between sites-sometimes hours-when you only give credit for 11-3 activities. I don't think that remark about future Cambridge children tour appearances originated with KP, BP, CH or any official source. I may be mistaken, but I believe it was from media speculation or ''sources close," which has actually been associated with Kate blogs in the past. Just as other remarks about future plans have been.

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    12. anon 1 @ 11:57 & Starchild - that shimmering blue Amanda Wakeley suit from their engagement tour is lovely, I wish she would wear it again! Those block heels do remind me of the Tod's debuted in Canada.
      Jane, I remember you wrote a little piece about why Kate doesn't wear Amanda Wakeley much nowadays. I quite liked her designs, I thought she was a solid British designer & a good fit for Kate.

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    13. Thank you for the heads up, Kiwi. I will read Jane's article. I agree it is a gorgeous suit and the shoes really surprised me- Kate's wearing them at that time. I think the Germany/Poland visit might be a good opportunity for its re-emergeance,as Jane has suggested, I think.

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    14. You're welcome, anon 1. Jane mentions Amanda Wakeley at the end of the post on the HT briefing in January, if you haven't found it already :)
      I hope that's what Jane was implying by adding a pic of the blue AW suit at the start of this post, I'd forgotten how much I like it!

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    15. I am sure travel times played a role in Canada Anon 1, Mar 6 (although there has been travel inside other tours too.) But travel doesn't explain the fact that there was no other activity except the children's party one day with the rest of the day being set aside as "private family time." As I said though I think the main problem was the obvious and self-serving agenda of the host. With any tour hosts and visitors each have an agenda but in this case, they didn't seem to mesh very well.

      So far as the origin of remarks about future travel, I don't know. Will was quoted about the children being jet lagged for a pretty ling time though.

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    16. The Canada trip was a long way and many hours difference in time but a trip to continental Europe would only be a one hour time difference so I don't think time difference would play a huge role in the decision making.

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    17. I agree Robin. My original response was a reply to a post about differences between Canada II and India, not so much the upcoming visits to Europe.

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  6. They have visited Canada twice, both lengthy and very "major" tours.

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  7. This is a major tour, no matter the length, on so many levels. It will be exciting to see them in Germany and Poland, and very moving when they visit the horrific Auschwitz. William and Kate are wonderful representatives of Queen Elizabeth.

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    1. Good point, Tedi. There are a number of implications associated with the Cambridges being chosen. Previously, the Wessexes made such visits or the Prince Phillip. Together with Kate's meeting with King Willem-Alexander and the France tour,it might signify Prince William's diplomatic coming of age as well as his being finally recognised as a significant force for both the Monarchy and the Government. Small in length, perhaps, but large in meaning, as you said,Tedi.

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    2. The Cambridge's star power = the best "bang for the buck."

      No other royal(s) would generate the same level of interest or tour coverage.

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    3. Well said Anon 1 and Royalfan ;)

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    4. Thank-you, Tedi. Royalfan,there is certainly the element of star power with the couple. I do think Wiliam's cutting his diplomatic teeth on the President of China could signify a deeper reason for sending them. I am guessing, but I wonder if the Germany/Poland visit might require more than sparkle and shine. He Is meeting with Angela Merkel. It could be just a courtesy call-or maybe more. The situation is somewhat delicate with Brexit in the works. It requires more than publicity. I don't mean to imply that I believe he is a seasoned diplomat, by any means. There will be advisers nearby. There may be a sort of script. I do believe William has an earnestness and sincerity that could be a sort of attractive delivery system that might differ from Phillip or Andrew's persona. And William represents the future.

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    5. Anon 1, it will require more than sparkle and shine, but I think Jean @11:50 is also correct.

      And I totally agree about william representing the future; this couple will have a much higher relevance and appeal factor (re: younger people especially) than C&C would IMO.

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    6. Yes, of course the Ambassadors, along with the advisors and perhaps a great deal of prep-work and a sort of script. I believe C&c are making a tour of European countries, as well. Not sure of the time. There are likely those in the various governments who feel the visit by the next heir lends more prestige.One guess which couple will receive the most press, as you have said, Royalfan.Perhaps those in charge have finally realised it pays to work With the Cambridges and use them to the advantage of the Monarchy and government, instead of possibly seeing them as rivals

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    7. Anon 1, I'd like to think that those in charge see the benefits of using W&K, but the best interest of the monarchy hasn't always been at the top of the list. Sadly. Imagine if Diana hadn't been thought of as a rival? Ohhh, the possibilities...

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    8. One of the possibilities being she might still be alive. As the mother of heirs to the throne she had a role to play. She did seem to come into her own once she was a private individual. It s too late to save Diana, but not too late for her son and daughter-in-law. I think William's gradually increasing royal role is part of a plan emerging from lessons learned-not a matter of reluctant William or work-shy Kate. Meanwhile, Charles is headed to Austria and Italy/Vatican and William to France and Germany/Poland. I would have loved to have heard the discussion and rationale behind that decision. So far all I've read is Charles really likes Italy and Camilla has been to the Vatican (once) before.

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    9. Charles always likes the visits to the places with great music and art. It's in his wheelhouse and there is much less opportunity for him to say something indelicate. The Cambridges have definitely been given the places where more sensitivity and diplomacy are needed.

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    10. Anon 1, we're on the same page regarding lessons learned. Perhaps I mentioned them once or twice. 😉

      And Robin, I do appreciate your reference to "sensitivity and diplomacy." Ha!

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  8. Jane! We need to hear your Ivanka Trump story stat!;)

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    1. Sonja from BavariaMarch 5, 2017 at 12:10 PM

      Yes please!

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  9. This is totally off-topic for which I apologize in advance, but is the gown Meghan Markle wore to the Jamaican wedding the same Erdem as Kate wore in 2015?

    http://fromberkshiretobuckingham.blogspot.com/2015_10_01_archive.html

    I don't have a fashionista eye, but just noticed how similar it appeared.

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    1. No, but it is similar in style. Floral maxi with large ruffle. I will post about that soon.

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    2. Like Catherine's it was too long, so did not hang correctly.

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  10. Very exciting news indeed! As a German with Polish roots I've been waiting for this announcement since watching Kate in 2011. I really hope that the visit will cover more than only Berlin and Warsaw (and possibly Auschwitz) - maybe Cologne, Düsseldorf or Bonn - so that I can get to see them.

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    1. Sonja from BavariaMarch 6, 2017 at 1:24 AM

      I alsp hope that they will visit more than only the capitals! I hope you get to see them, as I am hoping that they won't skip over Munich ;)

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  11. Exciting news for those of you in Germany and Poland, I hope many of you get a chance to see them! :)

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  12. Nice to hear that W&K will visit Poland and Germany soon and interesting to read that the BBC and other media outlets are wondering if W&K are to become "Brexit Ambassadors", altho I have some qualms since reading a blurb from the Polish President. Apparently, the Polish intent is to spend a fair bit of time couple-to-couple, in which case it's hard to imagine Brexit being ignored. Could get tricky. Still, if the Queen has given up travel, she daren't send her husband or Charles--both are far too outspoken.

    I do hope that W&K make it to Auschwitz and that they are given enuf time to tour it. I've visited Dachau and despite having read a fair bit on the Holocaust, I still couldn't quite believe that the general German populace could've known and let it go on. However, the location of Dachau settled it: they did know, and did nothing, at least, in most cases. So did many Western governments, after reading briefs by camp escapees. A sorry period in human history.

    Visiting Germany could also be a minefield; optimistically, both W&K will be briefed as well. The opportunities for diplomatic mishaps are rampant if these two are closely quizzed--W might have more knowledge, since he is privy to some government material on a regular basis, but the same cannot be said of Kate. If the FCO is inclined to use this royal couple for soft diplomacy on a regular basis, then Kate should be brought--and kept--up-to-date.

    Still, there's great gasthaus food, beer and white wine to look forward to, plenty of lovely walking trails, iffy nightlife to be found in certain German cities, terrific grandfather clocks for purchase, etc. This is a great tourist destination--I've been--but if the typical German is anything like my German grandmother was, be very careful to pick up after yourself PRONTO!

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    1. Sonja from BavariaMarch 6, 2017 at 12:30 PM

      White wine? You mean beer ;)

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    2. And Riesling wine??

      Anon2

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    3. Exactly,anon2! You beat me to it. Used to be a favorite of mine. Very dry. Perhaps not as popular now, but in the 70's...It sure beat Boone's Farm-Strawberry Hill. Maybe that was the 60's. Ha!

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    4. Sonja, time to get your eyes checked! I mentioned both beverages. And how I loved Bavaria--my favourite part of Germany.

      As for this discussion re Riesling, I tried it, didn't much like it--the quality of any wines varies, from vineyard to vineyard, of course, so maybe I was introduced to a second-rate wine. After that palate disaster, I simply ordered a glass of white wine, whatever the gasthaus had on tap, so to speak, and altho I probably wasn't served the best, they all beat that first glass of Riesling. :-))

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    5. I had the most incredible white semi sweet dessert wine while in Germany. (Dare I say) Even better than those I have had in France. So erroneously or not, I have always associated Germany with really wonderful white wines.

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  13. As the Duke and Duchess are going to all three countries at the request of the Foreign Office, I suspect someone from the FO will be in the party and of course, there are ambassadors in each country.

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    1. True, Jean...if you were obliquely responding to my earlier post...but, I rather think that a steady diet of information on any subject is better than receiving sporadic crash courses. The former builds toward a body of knowledge; the latter toward nothing much.

      It astounds me that the current Queen has never, according to any book I've read, given Philip access to those Red Boxes. Yet Queen Victoria gave Prince Albert access--both were considered German and thus not entirely trustworthy. The current monarch's mother was apparently given access too; certainly, according to my reading sources, both couples I've mentioned--and probably many other British monarchial couples--regularly discussed affairs of state. So why not our Queen and the man she was determined to marry, Prince Philip? Why did a woman so immersed in tradition and protocol choose to "demote"her husband?

      Seems to me that this tactic hasn't served either one very well, over the years, and it is my hope that in this, as well as several other matters, William will decides to do things differently. And it's never too soon to begin, IMO. After all, Kate is no blabbermouth; in all the years she's known him ( a good 15) she has never had a bad word to say about him. (By way of contrast, after 15 years, William's mother had "co-authored" Morton's tell-all, had given a very interesting, and revealing, TV interview, and was about to divorce, or be divorced by her royal spouse.)

      I say, give her access to the government briefs William gets, and then the two can offer each other their view., quite possibly lessening any sense of essential loneliness William may harbour. Sure, he can discuss same with his grandmother or his father IF they are irregularly available, but it's not quite the same, is it?

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    2. I don't disagree with your general point JC but I think Phillip HAD to be- as you put it - "demoted." Regardless of what may work or  have worked for other female monarchs, society's general proclivity is to assume the man holds the superior position. I think that would be especially true for men who come across as "macho" and outspoken as the DoE does. I don't think the W&K situation is parallel because Will will be the monarch and Kate certainly gives no sign of being outspoken. But I'm also not sure there will be much public "near equality"...as in a sort of "2 for the price of 1" mentality. Will strikes me as fairly "traditional" despite talk of modernizing the monarchy.

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    3. lizzie, I more-or-less agree with you; but, I wonder if Philip's inclination to say whatever quip comes to mind, often "politically incorrect", sometimes very amusing and sometimes quite offensive, and his numerous rumoured affairs, might have been driven by his lack of anything better to do or think about. When a man as you describe as "macho" is reduced to little more than a rose in his wife's lapel, his instinct might well lead him to rebel, no?

      Regarding William, yes, he also strikes me as traditional; this is the standard way first-borns, destined to reign, are trained to think. Optimistically, William hasn't entirely bought into the program; optimistically, he views and sees his wife as an equal; optimistically, he will treat his wife with far greater respect than the Queen has treated her husband. William could do worse--as the current Queen did--than to follow the example of Victoria (even if she did fly off the handle regularly, once the storm had passed, she listened to reason--Albert--, took his advice, generally sound) and enjoyed a very happy marriage. Not so, the current Queen.

      Victoria treated her husband as an equal. If she could, why couldn't Elizabeth? It wasn't until after Elizabeth ascended the throne, that the marriage fell apart. Perhaps that's when it became apparent to Philip that he wasn't respected by his wife, yet, he had given up his beloved career in the Navy for her, not to mention his life, in her service.

      Hence, I would urge William to be more like Victoria and less like his grandmother if he wants happiness in his private life. And, needless to say, Kate would be much happier, too. Altho I doubt that Kate is given to affairs--her parents seem to have a clean record--if they didn't, some sleazy reporter would've found the evidence and reported it long ago--even Kate might be driven to same if William chooses to climb aboard his Windsor high horse, as the Queen has done.

      Albert might've been more of a diplomat than Philip, but Philip, like Albert, is intelligent and possesses an inquiring mind. I think the Queen blew it. I would not like to think that William will follow suit. If he does, count me in with those who wish to get rid of the British monarchy, which, in any case, I am inclined to favour.

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    4. JC, I'm not arguing with you, but I do not believe that we can lay it all at the Queen's feet. I think her decisions, both "professional" and personal, were greatly influenced by the Queen Mother. The feminine floral prints were a facade; in reality she was one tough cookie.

      She was far from being an advocate for modernizing the monarchy and, from what I have read, she and PP didn't exactly see eye to eye. I also believe, quite strongly, that her influence on Charles made him the man he is today. Enough said.

      I am optimistic about the future; Diana planted seeds that are thriving. Just look at the decisions being made by the dynamic trio...

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    5. Dynamic trio, Royalfan? Do I catch a hint of a super hero fan? Ha! Perhaps soon to be the quixotic, quirky quartet...

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    6. A fan of good hearts and intentions. 💞😊

      Regarding the quartet...hmmm....I'm not holding my breath. Ha!

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    7. anon 1, think more in terms of a female triumvirate: The Queen Mother and her two daughters, Princess Margaret and the Queen, ranged against Philip, the outsider. There is little doubt in my mind that as royalfan pointed out, the Queen Mother greatly influenced the Queen, most probably because she was reluctant to give up the power she'd had when George VI was alive.

      And yes, royalfan, between the Queen Mother and Lord Louis Mountbatten--each driven by self-interest--Charles was reduced.

      BUT, Queen Victoria also had a domineering mother, whose male friend--I've forgotten his name--manipulated her, convincing Mummy Dearest that together they needed to control Victoria, as they had, pre-marriage. Victoria, however, chose to shrug off these two in favour of Albert. It would seem that our current Queen chose a different, far more disastrous, route.

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    8. Male friend, JC? Do you mean Lord Melbourne? Re: HM- I think she must be an excellent poker/Bridge player. She keeps people guessing and she rarely shows her hand. Watching the Queen and Prince Phillip with that little boy was revealing and perhaps one of few off-guard moments. At first she looks concerned or perplexed, then seems to realise it is merely a two year old type tantrum. She seems to enjoy the moment briefly then speaks a few quiet words and the child is soothed and happily presents his flowers. (didn't something similar happen with George at his sister's christening-and again, somewhat sternly, at Trooping with William? She has an innate authority that cannot be taught or imitated)I think the Queen is a Phillip whisperer. Phillip, meanwhile, is heartily enjoying the whole scene, then steps forward as though to assist---no, Queenie's got it.

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    9. Oh! The Mother's male friend. Ha.

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    10. All of you likely have a better grasp of the details of British history than I do. But as a general rule, I'm loathe to blame the woman (any woman...mother, wife, partner-in-cheating "other" woman, mother-in-law) when a man chooses to break HIS marriage vows and have affairs. 

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    11. PS- I think Charlotte is showing promise of having that same innate authority.

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    12. JC, I recognize that Victoria stood up to her mother and the Queen could have made similar decisions, but I keep going back to the abdication crisis; I can only imagine the environment in which the Queen was raised with Queen Mary and the Duchess of York united against her "bad" uncle (Edward VIII), his poor choices, that horrible woman (Wallis), their (E&W) lack of respect for tradition, etc. Never mind the personal feelings and vibes between the adults. Imagine the added pressure on Princess (and Queen) Elizabeth and the way it would influence her own decisions...

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    13. Yet another female triumvirate, then. (Queen Mary, the then Duchess of York, and our current Queen).

      Lizzie, if I in any way offended you--you seem to think that someone was casting aspersions on women "when a man chooses to break HIS marriage vows"--rest assured that I have no difficulty blaming either the man or the woman who does so. And regarding Prince Philip and the Queen, I am disinterested--I don't care for either one, for different reasons. Do I think that Philip cheated? Yes. Do I think that the Queen's poor judgment might've caused this? Yes. The difference between the young Queen Victoria and the young Queen Elizabeth might've boiled down to the quality of their advisors or to their differing ability to accept good advice and reject bad, their judgment.

      JC

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    14. You didn't offend me JC. I just disagree with the idea that if men cheat it's caused by something women do or have failed to do. (And I hope we can disagree here without either of us feeling personally offended.) But to me the idea is so prevalent it's cliche...the "other woman" comes on to a guy and so he must cheat, the wife doesn't understand her husband so he must cheat, the wife doesn't hold plumping up her husband's ego as a first priority so he must cheat, and so on. I'm not saying women don't ever play a role. But unless a man is forced against his will (by threats or violence) into having sex outside his marriage/relationship, in the vast majority of cases I think his choice is the main cause, not the woman's actions or lack of actions.

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    15. Well lizzie, this may come as a surprise, but I agree wholehearted with your POV; the decision to break marriage vows always belongs to the individual. Always. But, there are sometimes nuances involved. I was attempting to introduce same; clearly, I failed to make that point.

      Think I should go back to simple, correct thought, and to hell with what ifs and maybes and manufacturing excuses for what I know very well are inexcusable acts.

      Thanks for the correction--and thanks for the forbearance. Will try to be more direct in future comments,
      altho I don't want to wind up kicked off my favourite site!

      JC

      PS Always a joy to meet someone whose moral code code I wholeheartedly support; this code has served me well and I wish the same for you.

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  14. Hmmmm I just read that Rebecca Deacon will be leaving the employment of the William and Kate this summer ....
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    1. Not shocking really, given the demands of the job. 😊 And the wedding sounds lovely!!

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    2. I'm not surprised either. She's 35 and probably would like to start a family asap.

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    3. I was a bit surprised at the timing RoyalFan. But no issues with her having a change of career after her marriage 😊

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    4. Maybe Rebecca's assistant will take her place. I don't remember the assistant's name. Some photos of her showed up during the India/Bhutan tour.

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    5. Obviously I'm not surprised either since I mentioned that possibility when her engagement was announced. 

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    6. It was sort of a fifty-fifty bet. I think the palace announcement was worded very carefully. It wished her luck in her future work. To be honest, it sounds like something an employer says when an employee is being politely let go. Read it before objecting to my remarks. I've read this summer and the autumn as the end of her job. She knows where all the bodies are buried and holds a few winning cards she can play. There may be an extended honeymoon and no return after. The whole situation, with the announcement popping up four months later- feels strange to me. I can't believe at least ONE of the royal writers would not have heard of it. The wedding following so quickly upon the announcement. There is a great deal more to the story, I would suspect. I also had predicted not so long ago that she would not be around much longer. Some strongly reacted to my observation.I did not see a wedding as her going away party, however.

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    7. I am totally surprised that women in the XXI century don't think that the husband might take care of the children while she is working. Is he going to quit too?? These things are the worst, women make that other women can't be business women....People must not know anyone divorced as well....

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    8. Anon 2:33, now you're just making up stuff. No one here said anything of the kind.

      Anon 1, I think you are really stretching here. Why does there have to be any more to this story than meets the eye? Kate and William are being very very generous to someone they are supposedly trying to get rid of.

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    9. Anon2-I don't think she is "stepping down" (palace source words) because she is getting married, partly because the palace did not wish her well in her up-coming marriage. Her future career was cited. Maybe she is moving on to a less hectic, yet fulfilling job. The hostile press had to have been a constant source of irritation as well.The marriage is a convenient co-incidence.. William and Harry have both shown they are extremely loyal to close friends and staff, perhaps to a fault. It may have been in the works for awhile now. I doubt we will ever know the whole story. It is probably none of our business. I do understand that your criticism was of commenters that assumed she was leaving due to marriage/family. As you have said, a father can be a perfectly good stay-at-home parent. I think commenters were mostly not giving the situation much thought or were being diplomatic. Which I am not.

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    10. Totally agree Anon1

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    11. http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/03/kate-middleton-private-secretary-opening-rebecca-deacon

      Any takers? :)

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    12. Today is the International women's day!!

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    13. I agree Anon 1 it is possible to read the KP announcement in different ways. But frankly I've thought that was true about many announcements from KP. Some have been very oddly worded IMO. Honestly this one strikes me as the sort of announcement many employers who are a little ticked off make when a senior employee **chooses** to leave somewhat unexpectedly. (And perhaps Rebecca gave her notice only recently long after all the wedding planning was done. Hence the somewhat curt tone.) It doesn't strike me as the sort of announcement one sees when someone is forced out. But anything is possible.

      Anon 2 (and 1)...of course employed husbands can do childcare too. My guess though is that Rebecca's current job hours are very irregular (early am, late nights, weekends, travel) and involve being available when Kate needs her. If Rebecca is planning children soon or is even pregnant now, it would seem hard for two working parents (never mind for single parents!) to manage the care of a young child under those circumstances. Isn't that what people said when W&K had children?  And they have staff! So far as RD's husband being a stay at home dad, I wonder if the royals pay her enough to be able to support a husband? I've always heard royal service pays pretty poorly. 


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    14. Lizzie, agree about the wording of the announcement, but BBC does not mention the "stepping down" part, which makes me wonder what the actual complete statement was. Just curiosity on my part. Once RD leaves the KP employment it is nobody's business-unless she goes to work for the Queen. Ha! That would be something. KP seems to make it fairly clear it was a career choice and you may be right about the short notice, but I kinda doubt it. I think Sophie Agnew -not sure of the name-being put in place at least a year ago was no coincidence. As I said about the Kate pregnancy rumors-time will tell. And it apparently has.

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    15. Perhaps the primary goal was to keep the wedding preparations private for as long as possible and it was always Rebecca's desire to move on from a demanding and non-traditional job at this stage in her life. And, the summer is a good time to do so (with respect to the royal calendar).

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    16. Regarding the stay-at-home dad vs. the stay-at-home mom debate ... IMO, that is for every couple to decide on their own. Whatever works for them. And, yes, it's wonderful that stay-at-home dad's are cheered in 2017, but isn't it a wee bit sad and ironic that women can be condemned for making the very same choice in 2017. CHOICE being the key word here. :-)

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    17. Agreed!! about choice royalfan..

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  15. Ditto, ladies. If she wants a couple of ankle-biters, she'd best get on with it, and once they're around, she'd probably want to hang around close to home for a few years.

    I wonder if this is why the Cambridges/Charles hired someone to act as an aide to Rebecca some months ago, or if that was simply serendipitous. At any rate, she would have some notion and maybe some training for Rebecca's position and if Rebecca thought she couldn't handle it, I'm pretty sure W&K would've been informed.

    Hope Rebecca has a terrific wedding day--and I quite like that dinner-dance venue!

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  16. Unrelated to this post, but Claire Foy's Valentino look quite similar to Kate's Bafta dress. I actually like this better (minus the collar)

    http://www.usmagazine.com/stylish/pictures/2017-sag-awards-red-carpet-hits-and-misses-w463761/claire-foy-w463766

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    1. The fabric had a similar feel but Kate's was much better! What was she thinking with that collar? Better yet, what was Valentino thinking?

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    2. Indeed Robin, what was the designer thinking. Claire Foy is a lovely woman, but this dress was not her best look.

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    3. Ok...I'm seeing an updated version of an "I Love Lucy" negligee. 😊

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    4. I think some of these starlets wear these things because the designer loans them for publicity. The more cache a star has the more choice she has. I miss seeing what Julia Roberts and Gina Davis would wear. they were always so classic. Now I usually look forward to Nicole Kidman - although she recently wore some green bird thing that was quite questionable. I never watch awards shows anymore because most of Hollywood gives me a twitch, but I love to look online the next day and see the fashion.

      LOL, royalfan! I think you're right on the "I Love Lucy" negligee. Although, I believe Lucy never wore a collar like that!

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    5. Robin, Nicole Kidman's green dress is also featured (same link above). Just scroll down!

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    6. Robin, IMO the stars are in search of shock value. And they deliver. Ha!

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    7. I think Jennifer Lopes started it with her "gown less evening strap." *****Its shock-value put JLo on the map. It almost seems ladylike, compared to what we see on the red carpet today for some of the less staid award shows. MTV? *****PS some of the younger commenters might not be familiar with the ancient term, ''strapless evening gown," once the epitome of daring dress.

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  17. This is off topic but has anyone seen if Will, Kate, or Harry will be at the Commonwealth Service this Monday? I have only seen the Queen is scheduled to attend with Prince Philip. Kate has gone the last 2 years so I was hoping she would make an appearance again this year

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    1. Harry is going but not Will and Kate

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    2. Thank you! I will be in London during the time and was hoping to get to see Kate again. I will happily settle for Her Majesty and Harry though

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    3. Aren't there services throughout GB? Don't the royals take turns at other venues...or am I confusing this with another memorial? Some settling!Hope you get a glimpse,Whitney

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    4. I'm not sure about there being other services but the "main" service is at Westminster Abbey on Monday afternoon. I was there the first year Kate attended and got to see her, and pregnant with Charlotte to top it off! Maybe I'll get lucky and see her doing some last minute Paris shopping on High Street

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    5. I think you're right, anon 1. Didn't C&C go to Cornwall last year?

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    6. I thought Craithe Kirk or somewhere in Scotland. The royals spread out for something, but I am not sure if it was Commonwealth. For some reason I think HM was there and CC at the Abbey.

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    7. Whitney is correct. Only at the Abbey. Last year Kate worn the gray Erdem with the broad-brimmed hat and TRHs walked just behind HM and the Duke. I don't know where CC were. Obviously out of town. I guess it was one of those war memorials that divides up the royals. You must have been there in 2015 , Whitney, when she wore the navy outfit with the tanzanite jewelry she wore today. She was just weeks from Charlotte's birth. Since CC and the Cambridges seem to trade-off years for some other events, maybe that is what is the plan this year. It is just four days from their very busy March 17&18...including a stop by the St. Patrick's festivities.

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    8. Charles and Camilla were in Kosovo last yr on Commonwealth Day, I think.

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  18. Sonja from BavariaMarch 9, 2017 at 8:59 AM

    Oh my gosh, I so hope that William and Kate will get to visit Landshut and enjoy the famous Landshut wedding. It is a big event where more that 2000 locals dress up in medieval costumes and recreate and celebrate the wedding of the son of the local Duke, Georg, with a polish princess, Hedwig, that took place in 1475. This big event takes place every 4 years and is very famous. I am sure they would enjoy it and it takes place this year every weekend from late June to late July so it would be perfect timing! And so cute for them to attend another 'royal wedding' ;)

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    1. That sounds like so much fun! I hope they get to attend!

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    2. Sonja from BavariaMarch 10, 2017 at 12:11 AM

      It really is! I am planning on going to see it and it would be a perfect end to their tour of Germany & Poland (Duke of Wittelsbach - the old reigning house of Bavaria - married the daughter of the King of Poland). I would so love to see them enjoy the pomp and pageantry of royal weddings hundreds of years before theirs took part ;)

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  19. hey..I am a regular reader of your blog and really look forward to go through it as I absolutely loved the way put up the facts..think you are bit busy.. but really missing your take on Kate's yesterday extravaganja.

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    1. Thank you so much for this sweet message. I appreciated it. The post is now up! :)

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